Why ?? Do you find your state to be incompetent ?? Think they could do something if all the Taxes collected in-state were used in-state ?
On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 9:11 AM, GregfromBoston <[email protected]>wrote: > So long as the US Code is unconstitutional, we're kinda done. > > On May 3, 10:55 am, MJ <[email protected]> wrote: > > You keep looking in the WRONG places. > > Try THIS:http://www.constitution.org/cons/constitu.txtPoint to the > Article, Section and Clause or Amendment. > > [do remember that naturalization deals with Citizenship and NOT > immigration] > > Regard$, > > --MJThe Constitution does not authorize the federal government to control > immigration. Nor does it say anything about illegal aliens. ... Sadly, > lawmakers have repeatedly interpreted this silence as license for > ill-conceived legislation. Congress began barring entry to the nation in > 1875 with prostitutes and convicts. Soon, all sorts of people fell short of > congressional glory: ex-convicts in 1882, along with Chinese citizens, > lunatics, and idiots. Paupers, polygamists, and people suffering from > infectious diseases or insanity made the list in 1891, while the illiterate > were banned in 1917. -- Becky AkersAt 10:49 AM 5/3/2011, you wrote:I just > don't know what to say, other than this: > http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/8/usc_sup_01_8_10_12_20_II_30_IV.html > > On May 3, 10:42 am, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Greg, The fed is not given the right to control immigration, just to > see > > > that migration "between the states" is unfettered, but the States > are..... > > > they simply may not control movements at "Interstate" crossings... > there is > > > no limit placed at ports of foreign entry for the states. > > > > > > On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 8:37 AM, GregfromBoston <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Want better schools ?? move east > > > > ------------------------- > > > > > > > East of me is the ocean. > > > > > > > Point taken, and I have made the same point RE Dept of Education is > > > > illegal BECAUSE of the very amendment you cite. > > > > > > > But on one hand, MJ claims, the US govt has no power over > immigration, > > > > because its not explicit in the constitution (Naturalization, > > > > schmation), and that the FDA is illegal, yet then goes on to purport > > > > that no, explicit constitutional authority is not requisite. > > > > > > > Allllllllllllllllll-righty then! > > > > > > > On May 3, 10:27 am, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Greg, > > > > > > > > ALL things not specifically mentioned in the Constitution as the > > > > > responsibility of the Federal Government was to be left to the > States to > > > > > each deal with separately. > > > > > > > > What most people do not, or refuse, to see is that the USA was > always > > > > meant > > > > > to be a union of 50 separate and sovereign states. Each very > distinct and > > > > > offering to its citizens that which suited its specific citizens > most. > > > > There > > > > > was never an intension of "One law for all". > > > > > > > > Citizens (and only citizens of the several states) were to be > allowed to > > > > > travel freely between the states, There was to be no import/export > tax > > > > > between the states only at ports handling foreign trade ...(the > biggest > > > > > failure of the Articles of Confederation, and the main reason for > the new > > > > > Constitution, and Lincolns excuse for Ft. Sumter...tax collection). > Only > > > > the > > > > > President is elected by all and only he was meant to be responsible > at > > > > > large. It is the responsibility of Congressmen to represent their > > > > > constituency only (pork was just fine as deals had to be made that > would > > > > get > > > > > enough votes...there was very little Federal money to go around), > > > > Senators > > > > > were originally designed to represent the needs of their state only > under > > > > > the guiding hand of each governor. The Feds were responsible for > only a > > > > VERY > > > > > LIMITED military (basically the "officer corps") with the "standing > army" > > > > > made up ENTIRELY of the forces supplied by the states (thus the > need to > > > > > "Declare War" only by Congress assembled as their constituents were > to be > > > > > "called up") > > > > > > > > Laws about food safety, drugs, taxes, social welfare, medical, > schools, > > > > etc. > > > > > are the absolute responsibility of each separate state ..... > separately. > > > > > This is what would make different states attractive to different > people > > > > and > > > > > cause migration from one to another of both people and industry. > States > > > > were > > > > > allowed to sue one another over (literally) bad things flowing > > > > > downstream...this was the interstate control factor... the federal > > > > courts. > > > > > > > > That these things are now dealt with by the Feds is indeed a > usurpation > > > > of > > > > > and by the Feds. > > > > > > > > Want better schools ?? move east, The Feds were never meant to make > > > > things > > > > > equal... the states were never meant to be equal, all laws were > never > > > > meant > > > > > to be equal.... > > > > > > > > On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 6:34 AM, GregfromBoston < > [email protected] > > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dockside Greeters & Crew (Boston Harbor) > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > Date: 2011-04-28, 6:55PM EDT > > > > > > Reply to: [email protected] [Errors when > replying to > > > > > > ads?] > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > GREAT SUMMER JOBS!! 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You can help us deliver an > outstanding > > > > > > recreational experience in and around Boston Harbor and the > Boston > > > > > > Harbor Islands. More than a dozen full time and part time jobs > still > > > > > > available right now through Labor Day. > > > > > > > > > Location: Boston Harbor > > > > > > > > > On May 2, 8:49 am, MJ <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > You're being silly. > > > > > > > Where in the constitution does it say government has the power > > > > > > toregulatefood and drugs? > > > > > > > Nowhere ... yet ANOTHER usurpation.The very reason for the US > Code > > > > (laws) > > > > > > is to pick up where the > > > > > > > constitution leaves off, AND to limit where it doesn't > > > > > > > ROTFLMAO! > > > > > > > Jeffrey Tucker, Ditch the PlannersNo one so much as suggested > such a > > > > > > thing as the US Code in the first hundred years after the US > > > > Constitution > > > > > > was enacted. It would have been only a little longer than the > > > > Constitution > > > > > > itself. The first attempt to create such a compilation of laws > occurred > > > > in > > > > > > 1878 but it languished because no one felt the need to update it. > Then > > > > in > > > > > > 1926, in the midst of Prohibition when the feds became deeply > involved > > > > in > > > > > > regulating the details of life, Congress made the thing come into > > > > existence. > > > > > > It is printed every six years.An institution was born, though > most > > > > people > > > > > > know nothing of it. The next printing will come out in 2012, but > the > > > > 2006 > > > > > > with annotations was 356 thousand-plus-page volumes that cover > every > > > > aspect > > > > > > of life as we know it. The next one will add many new sections > and > > > > probably > > > > > > more than 100,000 pages.This is America's central plan -- or > > > > ownGosplan, so > > > > > > to speak -- and it is as elaborate and detailed as any set of > laws that > > > > have > > > > > > ever governed any society in the history of the world. Much of > this > > > > central > > > > > > plan is absorbed into our daily lives in ways that we don't > notice or > > > >... > > > > read more ยป > > -- > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > * Read the latest breaking news, and more. > -- *Mark M. Kahle H.* * * * * -- Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. 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