Hello Jonathan! I love this, "Let's Review":
Just some examples of his big government votes: 03-21-1991 - $40 billion - bailout of failed savings and loan institutions; Voted For; And I agree with the vote, this turned out to be profitable for the United States and its taxpayers; 06-26-1991 - $52.6 billion - agriculture program subsidies, and food stamps; Voted Against: http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=26821&type=category&category=43&go.x=21&go.y=11 10-05-1992 - $66.5 billion - housing and community development; Voted Against: http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=26821&type=category&category=43&go.x=21&go.y=11 09-22-1994 - $250.6 billion - appropriations for the Departments of Labor, HHS, and Education. Voted Against: http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=26821&type=category&category=43&go.x=21&go.y=11 Foreign Aid: 06-27-1990 - $15.7 billion for fiscal 1991; Nay: http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=26821&type=category&category=32&go.x=20&go.y=14 06-20-1991 - $12.4 billion for fiscal 1992 and $13 billion for fiscal 1993; Nay: http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=26821&type=category&category=32&go.x=20&go.y=14 06-25-1992 - $13.8 billion for fiscal 1993; 06-17-1993 - $13.0 billion for fiscal 1994; No Vote: http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=26821&type=category&category=32&go.x=20&go.y=14 09-29-1993 - $12.9 billion, including $2.5 billion to Russia; Nay: http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=26821&type=category&category=32&go.x=20&go.y=14 08-04-1994 - $13.8 billion for fiscal 1995. Yea: http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=26821&type=category&category=32&go.x=20&go.y=14 ========= Get your facts correct Jonathan, which means staying off of the Moonbat and Crackpot sites that you and Michael seem to enjoy so much! On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 6:42 PM, Jonathan <[email protected]>wrote: > Keith, > > Holding Gingrich out as a defender of small government by accepting what he > says as opposed to what he has actually done does not seem very bright on > your part. > > Gingrich had mediocre Conservative Index ratings: > > 96th Congress: 85 > 97th Congress: 77 > 98th Congress: 74 > 99th Congress: 80 > 100th Congress: 80 > 101st Congress: 57 > 100nd Congress: 60 > 103rd Congress: 78 > > Just some examples of his big government votes: > > 03-21-1991 - $40 billion - bailout of failed savings and loan institutions; > > 06-26-1991 - $52.6 billion - agriculture program subsidies, and food > stamps; > 10-05-1992 - $66.5 billion - housing and community development; > 09-22-1994 - $250.6 billion - appropriations for the Departments of Labor, > HHS, and Education. > > Foreign Aid: > > 06-27-1990 - $15.7 billion for fiscal 1991; > 06-20-1991 - $12.4 billion for fiscal 1992 and $13 billion for fiscal 1993; > > 06-25-1992 - $13.8 billion for fiscal 1993; > 08-06-1992 - $12.3 billion for the IMF. > 06-17-1993 - $13.0 billion for fiscal 1994; > 09-29-1993 - $12.9 billion, including $2.5 billion to Russia; > 08-04-1994 - $13.8 billion for fiscal 1995. > > I could likely spend most of the day finding his pro-big government votes. > > > On 05/13/2011 01:20 AM, Keith In Köln wrote: > > Guten Morgen from Köln Michael! > > To prove my point, I will take the time to refute another one of your dumb, > "cut and paste" posts. > > As usual, Michael took an article from a Moonbat, Tom Woods, who quotes > another Moonbat, Bob Wenzel, in their bashing of Former House Speaker Newt > Gingrich, the crux of the articles amount to nothing other than some name > calling, specifically that Mr. Gingrich is a weasel. > > Let's review: > > First, Woods cites Wentzel's "brief" article as being somehow "sharp" > and "insightful". Here's what Wentzel said, according to Woods, the, > "brief, sharp insightful" article in its entirety: > > "*Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich will officially jump into the race > for the Republican presidential nomination on Wednesday with announcements > on Facebook and Twitter, * > ** > *The Gingrich campaign strategy appears to be that he will run not on any > principles, but more on the fact that he is not President Obama. > > A Gingrich snippet:** > * > > *The fact is, we are not going to close the deficit and move towards a > balanced budget unless we follow the policies that foster the economic > growth necessary to create jobs.The first and most immediate step would be > to employ the policies that encourage investment, create jobs, and reward > innovation and entrepreneurship -- exactly the opposite of the Obama > anti-jobs policies* > > > > *Aside from the attack on President Obama, the underlying message here is > that Gingrich wants to balance the budget not by reducing government > spending, but by increasing tax revenues through more jobs. In other words, > Gingrich sees no problem with the current size of government."* > ** > *========* > ** > Obviously, both Wentzel and Woods are either just total ignoramuses, > and/or they are purposely attempting to besmirch Mr. Gingrich's long record > and established policy of smaller federal government. For example, here is > a speech from just two months ago, on Mr. Gingrich's policies on smaller, > limited federal government: > ** > > http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/118653/20110304/newt-gingrich-2012-presidential-aspirations-smaller-government.htm > > *"We need to declare our independence from trying to protect and defend > failed bureaucracies that magically become ours as soon as we are in charge > of them. We appoint solid conservatives to a department and within three > weeks they are defending and protecting the very department that they would > have been attacking before they got appointed. * > > *I think that there are two grave lessons for the conservative movement > since 1980. The first, which we still haven't come to grips with, is that > governing..."* > Source: Speech at 2011 Conservative Political Action Conference Feb 9, 2008 > > The 21st Century Contract with America includes: > > * * > - *Change the mindset of big government by replacing bureaucratic > public administration with Entrepreneurial Public Management so government > can operate with the speed, effectiveness, & efficiency of the information > age. * > - *Balance the federal budget and insist on a lean government, low tax, > low interest rate economy to maximize growth. * > - *Insist on congressional reform to make the legislative branch > responsive to the needs of the 21st century.* > > * * > Source: Gingrich Communications website, www.newt.org, “Issues” Sep 1, > 2007 ============= > > I could go on and on showing and demonstrating Mr. Gingrich's belief that > our federal government is out of control, and that both Woods and Wentzel > are Moonbats. As a matter of fact, why don't you Google both men and see > what their credentials are? You will find that they are not qualified any > more than you or I, to be espousing their misinformation. > > So, the point being, is that the next time you cut and paste an article > that you expect some kind of thoughtful feedback on, maybe you should start > trying to post a little more thoughtful cut and paste articles? > > > > ** > -- > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > * Read the latest breaking news, and more. > Watch host Steve Samblis every Friday as he brings you the top three newly > released movies of the week. > > http://click.lavabit.com/es317zgkwbdtcdhd83676dnqtnqnqdrh9rezkdn8sz1ri83n9hry/ > > > -- > Freedom is always illegal! 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