*Keith,
It is you who needs to get his facts straight. In four instances the
votes you claim as nay or against are not even listed at the links you
provided. In another instance you provided an incorrect link. The
correct link, however, shows a yea vote. In two others you claim nay
votes when in fact yea votes were cast.
**INLINE:*
On 05/13/2011 11:52 AM, Keith In Köln wrote:
Hello Jonathan!
I love this, "Let's Review":
Just some examples of his big government votes:
03-21-1991 - $40 billion - bailout of failed savings and loan
institutions;
Voted For; And I agree with the vote, this turned out to be
profitable for the United States and its taxpayers;
06-26-1991 - $52.6 billion - agriculture program subsidies, and food
stamps;
Voted Against:
http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=26821&type=category&category=43&go.x=21&go.y=11
<http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=26821&type=category&category=43&go.x=21&go.y=11>
*Your link is bad - this vote not listed.*
10-05-1992 - $66.5 billion - housing and community development;
Voted Against:
http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=26821&type=category&category=43&go.x=21&go.y=11
<http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=26821&type=category&category=43&go.x=21&go.y=11>
*Your link is bad - this vote not listed.*
09-22-1994 - $250.6 billion - appropriations for the Departments of
Labor, HHS, and Education.
Voted Against:
http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=26821&type=category&category=43&go.x=21&go.y=11
<http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=26821&type=category&category=43&go.x=21&go.y=11>
*Voted Yes -
http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=26821&type=category&category=27&go.x=11&go.y=5*
Foreign Aid:
06-27-1990 - $15.7 billion for fiscal 1991;
Nay:
http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=26821&type=category&category=32&go.x=20&go.y=14
<http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=26821&type=category&category=32&go.x=20&go.y=14>
*Your link is bad - this vote not listed.*
06-20-1991 - $12.4 billion for fiscal 1992 and $13 billion for fiscal
1993;
Nay:
http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=26821&type=category&category=32&go.x=20&go.y=14
<http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=26821&type=category&category=32&go.x=20&go.y=14>
*Your link is bad - this vote not listed.*
06-25-1992 - $13.8 billion for fiscal 1993;
06-17-1993 - $13.0 billion for fiscal 1994;
No Vote:
http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=26821&type=category&category=32&go.x=20&go.y=14
<http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=26821&type=category&category=32&go.x=20&go.y=14>
*Voted Yes -
http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=26821&type=category&category=32&go.x=20&go.y=14*
09-29-1993 - $12.9 billion, including $2.5 billion to Russia;
Nay:
http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=26821&type=category&category=32&go.x=20&go.y=14
<http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=26821&type=category&category=32&go.x=20&go.y=14>
*Voted Yes -
http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=26821&type=category&category=32&go.x=20&go.y=14*
08-04-1994 - $13.8 billion for fiscal 1995.
Yea:
http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=26821&type=category&category=32&go.x=20&go.y=14
<http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=26821&type=category&category=32&go.x=20&go.y=14>
*Well, you got one right!*
=========
Get your facts correct Jonathan, which means staying off of the
Moonbat and Crackpot sites that you and Michael seem to enjoy so much!
On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 6:42 PM, Jonathan
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
wrote:
Keith,
Holding Gingrich out as a defender of small government by
accepting what he says as opposed to what he has actually done
does not seem very bright on your part.
Gingrich had mediocre Conservative Index ratings:
96th Congress: 85
97th Congress: 77
98th Congress: 74
99th Congress: 80
100th Congress: 80
101st Congress: 57
100nd Congress: 60
103rd Congress: 78
Just some examples of his big government votes:
03-21-1991 - $40 billion - bailout of failed savings and loan
institutions;
06-26-1991 - $52.6 billion - agriculture program subsidies, and
food stamps;
10-05-1992 - $66.5 billion - housing and community development;
09-22-1994 - $250.6 billion - appropriations for the Departments
of Labor, HHS, and Education.
Foreign Aid:
06-27-1990 - $15.7 billion for fiscal 1991;
06-20-1991 - $12.4 billion for fiscal 1992 and $13 billion for
fiscal 1993;
06-25-1992 - $13.8 billion for fiscal 1993;
08-06-1992 - $12.3 billion for the IMF.
06-17-1993 - $13.0 billion for fiscal 1994;
09-29-1993 - $12.9 billion, including $2.5 billion to Russia;
08-04-1994 - $13.8 billion for fiscal 1995.
I could likely spend most of the day finding his pro-big
government votes.
On 05/13/2011 01:20 AM, Keith In Köln wrote:
Guten Morgen from Köln Michael!
To prove my point, I will take the time to refute another one of
your dumb, "cut and paste" posts.
As usual, Michael took an article from a Moonbat, Tom Woods,
who quotes another Moonbat, Bob Wenzel, in their bashing of
Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, the crux of the articles
amount to nothing other than some name calling, specifically that
Mr. Gingrich is a weasel.
Let's review:
First, Woods cites Wentzel's "brief" article as being somehow
"sharp" and "insightful". Here's what Wentzel said, according
to Woods, the, "brief, sharp insightful" article in its entirety:
"/Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich will officially jump into
the race for the Republican presidential nomination on Wednesday
with announcements on Facebook and Twitter, /
//
/The Gingrich campaign strategy appears to be that he will run
not on any principles, but more on the fact that he is not
President Obama.
A Gingrich snippet://
/
/The fact is, we are not going to close the deficit and move
towards a balanced budget unless we follow the policies that
foster the economic growth necessary to create jobs.The first
and most immediate step would be to employ the policies that
encourage investment, create jobs, and reward innovation and
entrepreneurship -- exactly the opposite of the Obama
anti-jobs policies/
/Aside from the attack on President Obama, the underlying message
here is that Gingrich wants to balance the budget not by reducing
government spending, but by increasing tax revenues through more
jobs. In other words, Gingrich sees no problem with the current
size of government."/
//
/========/
//
Obviously, both Wentzel and Woods are either just total
ignoramuses, and/or they are purposely attempting to besmirch Mr.
Gingrich's long record and established policy of smaller federal
government. For example, here is a speech from just two months
ago, on Mr. Gingrich's policies on smaller, limited federal
government:
//
http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/118653/20110304/newt-gingrich-2012-presidential-aspirations-smaller-government.htm
/"We need to declare our independence from trying to protect and
defend failed bureaucracies that magically become ours as soon as
we are in charge of them. We appoint solid conservatives to a
department and within three weeks they are defending and
protecting the very department that they would have been
attacking before they got appointed. /
/I think that there are two grave lessons for the conservative
movement since 1980. The first, which we still haven't come to
grips with, is that governing..."/
Source: Speech at 2011 Conservative Political Action Conference
Feb 9, 2008
The 21st Century Contract with America includes:
* // /Change the mindset of big government by replacing
bureaucratic public administration with Entrepreneurial
Public Management so government can operate with the speed,
effectiveness, & efficiency of the information age. /
* /Balance the federal budget and insist on a lean
government, low tax, low interest rate economy to maximize
growth. /
* /Insist on congressional reform to make the legislative
branch responsive to the needs of the 21st century./
//
Source: Gingrich Communications website, www.newt.org
<http://www.newt.org>, “Issues” Sep 1, 2007
=============
I could go on and on showing and demonstrating Mr. Gingrich's
belief that our federal government is out of control, and that
both Woods and Wentzel are Moonbats. As a matter of fact, why
don't you Google both men and see what their credentials are?
You will find that they are not qualified any more than you or I,
to be espousing their misinformation.
So, the point being, is that the next time you cut and paste an
article that you expect some kind of thoughtful feedback on,
maybe you should start trying to post a little more thoughtful
cut and paste articles?
//
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