all governments fail. all for the same reasons. On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 4:58 PM, Jonathan <[email protected]>wrote:
> John, > > Governments are like life itself. Eventually they all die. > > On 05/19/2011 02:30 PM, NoEinstein wrote: > > FACT: Cavemen anarchists aren't content with any government but a > FAILED government. Ha, ha, HA! — J. A. Armistead — > > On May 18, 9:51 pm, Jonathan <[email protected]> > <[email protected]> wrote: > > John is constantly redefining what socialism is in order to convolute > the debate. He can�t refute the facts we present because the facts don't > support his beliefs. > > On 05/16/2011 02:49 PM, MJ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > So now socialism is no longer socialism? Is THAT how you resolve your > own socialistic embrace? Simply REDEFINE terms? > > As noted, socialism interferes with the free use of one's own private > property. > I remain curious why 10% of the GNP is *magically* optimum. > > Regard$, > --MJ > > Every citizen who has produced or acquired a product, should have the > option of applying it immediately to his own use or of transferring it > to whoever on the face of the earth agrees to give him in exchange the > object of his desires. To deprive him of this option . . . solely to > satisfy the convenience of another citizen, is to legitimize an act of > plunder and to violate the law of justice. -- Fr�d�ric Bastiat > > At 04:38 PM 5/16/2011, you wrote: > > MJ: You prove nothing by arguing that another way of characterizing > socialism is to claim such interferes with the free use of one's > property. I say the same thing: Socialism STEALS from those who > actually WORK for a living to give to the good-for-nothings who are > unwilling to lift a finger, other than to vote in the most leftist > Democrats around. You will never best me at anything, MJ, because you > simply don't measure up. � NE � > > On May 16, 2:05 pm, MJ <[email protected]> <[email protected]> wrote: > > At 07:36 PM 5/12/2011, you wrote:Dear MJ: When the cost of running > > our government(s) starts > > approaching the optimum 10% of the GNP, there will be such a huge > What makes 10% GNP 'optimum'?amount of cash available to purchase > > desired goods and services, the > > many more people should be willing to be charitable. Socialism is > FORCED charity that robs from the rich to give to the lazy and good- > Nonsense. > Socialism is INTERFERING in the free use of one's private property. > Regard$, > --MJAll States are governed by a ruling class that is a minority of > > the population, and which subsists as a parasitic and exploitative > burden upon the rest of society. Since its rule is exploitative and > parasitic, the State must purchase the alliance of a group of Court > Intellectuals, whose task is to bamboozle the public into accepting > and celebrating the rule of its particular State. The Court > Intellectuals have their work cut out for them. In exchange for their > continuing work of apologetics and bamboozlement, the Court > Intellectuals win their place as junior partners in the power, > prestige, and loot extracted by the State apparatus from the deluded > public. -- Murray Rothbard > > -- > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > For options & help seehttp://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > * Visit our other community > athttp://www.PoliticalForum.com/<http://www.politicalforum.com/%A0> > <http://www.politicalforum.com/%A0> > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > * Read the latest breaking news, and more. > > -- > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > For options & help seehttp://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > * Visit our other community athttp://www.PoliticalForum.com/ > * It's active and moderated. 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