J. Ashley: In the Preface of my New Constitution it says: "The federal government shall not be considered to be synonymous with the USA, and those therein are not a ruling class nor are they dictators; rather they are the servants of the USA and shall be answerable to it and to any law-abiding Citizen or Citizens thereof." Governments may indeed fail, but the USA will go on! — J. A. Armistead — Patriot > On May 19, 6:58 pm, Jonathan <[email protected]> wrote: > John, > > Governments are like life itself. Eventually they all die. > > On 05/19/2011 02:30 PM, NoEinstein wrote: > > > FACT: Cavemen anarchists aren't content with any government but a > > FAILED government. Ha, ha, HA! � J. A. Armistead � > > On May 18, 9:51 pm, Jonathan<[email protected]> wrote: > >> John is constantly redefining what socialism is in order to convolute > >> the debate. He can�t refute the facts we present because the facts don't > >> support his beliefs. > > >> On 05/16/2011 02:49 PM, MJ wrote: > > >>> So now socialism is no longer socialism? Is THAT how you resolve your > >>> own socialistic embrace? Simply REDEFINE terms? > >>> As noted, socialism interferes with the free use of one's own private > >>> property. > >>> I remain curious why 10% of the GNP is *magically* optimum. > >>> Regard$, > >>> --MJ > >>> Every citizen who has produced or acquired a product, should have the > >>> option of applying it immediately to his own use or of transferring it > >>> to whoever on the face of the earth agrees to give him in exchange the > >>> object of his desires. To deprive him of this option . . . solely to > >>> satisfy the convenience of another citizen, is to legitimize an act of > >>> plunder and to violate the law of justice. -- Fr�d�ric Bastiat > >>> At 04:38 PM 5/16/2011, you wrote: > >>>> MJ: You prove nothing by arguing that another way of characterizing > >>>> socialism is to claim such interferes with the free use of one's > >>>> property. I say the same thing: Socialism STEALS from those who > >>>> actually WORK for a living to give to the good-for-nothings who are > >>>> unwilling to lift a finger, other than to vote in the most leftist > >>>> Democrats around. You will never best me at anything, MJ, because you > >>>> simply don't measure up. � NE � > >>>> On May 16, 2:05 pm, MJ<[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>> At 07:36 PM 5/12/2011, you wrote:Dear MJ: When the cost of running > >>>> our government(s) starts > >>>>> approaching the optimum 10% of the GNP, there will be such a huge > >>>>> What makes 10% GNP 'optimum'?amount of cash available to purchase > >>>> desired goods and services, the > >>>>> many more people should be willing to be charitable. Socialism is > >>>>> FORCED charity that robs from the rich to give to the lazy and good- > >>>>> Nonsense. > >>>>> Socialism is INTERFERING in the free use of one's private property. > >>>>> Regard$, > >>>>> --MJAll States are governed by a ruling class that is a minority of > >>>> the population, and which subsists as a parasitic and exploitative > >>>> burden upon the rest of society. Since its rule is exploitative and > >>>> parasitic, the State must purchase the alliance of a group of Court > >>>> Intellectuals, whose task is to bamboozle the public into accepting > >>>> and celebrating the rule of its particular State. The Court > >>>> Intellectuals have their work cut out for them. In exchange for their > >>>> continuing work of apologetics and bamboozlement, the Court > >>>> Intellectuals win their place as junior partners in the power, > >>>> prestige, and loot extracted by the State apparatus from the deluded > >>>> public. -- Murray Rothbard > >>>> -- > >>>> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > >>>> For options& help seehttp://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > >>>> * Visit our other community athttp://www.PoliticalForum.com/ > >>>> <http://www.politicalforum.com/%A0> > >>>> * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > >>>> * Read the latest breaking news, and more. > >>> -- > >>> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > >>> For options& help seehttp://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > >>> * Visit our other community athttp://www.PoliticalForum.com/ > >>> * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > >>> * Read the latest breaking news, and more. > >>> Catch weekly reviews of the hottest games on such video games consoles > >>> as the > >>> Xbox 360, Playstation 3, Nintendo Wii, PSP, PS2, PC and DS. Only on Mevio! > >>>http://click.lavabit.com/3qbc8g5stdhi9w4z5hayq3caejc76ni6pb1hwshtpnwy... > >> -- > > >> Freedom is always illegal! > > >> When we ask for freedom, we have already failed. It is only when we > >> declare freedom for ourselves and refuse to accept any less, that we > >> have any possibility of being free. > > >> "The great object is that every man be armed; everyone who is able may > >> have a gun." > >> - Patrick Henry > > -- > > Freedom is always illegal! > > When we ask for freedom, we have already failed. It is only when we > declare freedom for ourselves and refuse to accept any less, that we > have any possibility of being free. > > "The great object is that every man be armed; everyone who is able may > have a gun." > - Patrick Henry
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