John,

Once again, who is going to prevent "those therein" from becoming a "ruling class"?

On 05/20/2011 05:33 PM, NoEinstein wrote:
J. Ashley:  In the Preface of my New Constitution it says: "The
federal government shall not be considered to be synonymous with the
USA, and those therein are not a ruling class nor are they dictators;
rather they are the servants of the USA and shall be answerable to it
and to any law-abiding Citizen or Citizens thereof."  Governments may
indeed fail, but the USA will go on!  — J. A. Armistead —  Patriot
On May 19, 6:58 pm, Jonathan<[email protected]>  wrote:
John,

Governments are like life itself. Eventually they all die.

On 05/19/2011 02:30 PM, NoEinstein wrote:

FACT:  Cavemen anarchists aren't content with any government but a
FAILED government.  Ha, ha, HA!  � J. A. Armistead �
On May 18, 9:51 pm, Jonathan<[email protected]>    wrote:
John is constantly redefining what socialism is in order to convolute
the debate. He can�t refute the facts we present because the facts don't
support his beliefs.
On 05/16/2011 02:49 PM, MJ wrote:
So now socialism is no longer socialism? Is THAT how you resolve your
own socialistic embrace? Simply REDEFINE terms?
As noted, socialism interferes with the free use of one's own private
property.
I remain curious why 10% of the GNP is *magically* optimum.
Regard$,
--MJ
Every citizen who has produced or acquired a product, should have the
option of applying it immediately to his own use or of transferring it
to whoever on the face of the earth agrees to give him in exchange the
object of his desires. To deprive him of this option . . . solely to
satisfy the convenience of another citizen, is to legitimize an act of
plunder and to violate the law of justice. -- Fr�d�ric Bastiat
At 04:38 PM 5/16/2011, you wrote:
MJ:  You prove nothing by arguing that another way of characterizing
socialism is to claim such interferes with the free use of one's
property.  I say the same thing: Socialism STEALS from those who
actually WORK for a living to give to the good-for-nothings who are
unwilling to lift a finger, other than to vote in the most leftist
Democrats around.  You will never best me at anything, MJ, because you
simply don't measure up.  � NE �
On May 16, 2:05 pm, MJ<[email protected]>    wrote:
At 07:36 PM 5/12/2011, you wrote:Dear MJ:  When the cost of running
our government(s) starts
approaching the optimum 10% of the GNP, there will be such a huge
What makes 10% GNP 'optimum'?amount of cash available to purchase
desired goods and services, the
many more people should be willing to be charitable.  Socialism is
FORCED charity that robs from the rich to give to the lazy and good-
Nonsense.
Socialism is INTERFERING in the free use of one's private property.
Regard$,
--MJAll States are governed by a ruling class that is a minority of
the population, and which subsists as a parasitic and exploitative
burden upon the rest of society. Since its rule is exploitative and
parasitic, the State must purchase the alliance of a group of Court
Intellectuals, whose task is to bamboozle the public into accepting
and celebrating the rule of its particular State. The Court
Intellectuals have their work cut out for them. In exchange for their
continuing work of apologetics and bamboozlement, the Court
Intellectuals win their place as junior partners in the power,
prestige, and loot extracted by the State apparatus from the deluded
public. -- Murray Rothbard
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