Keith, What is there to be baffled by..... the Palestinians refuse the right to exist to Israel and as a matter of long standing policy reject 242.
As to the "carry a big stick" policy.... it is whack 'em really hard and get out. In Roosevelts own words it is explained as: "the exercise of intelligent forethought and of decisive action sufficiently far in advance of any likely crisis". The US has lost the meaning. On Aug 18, 12:38 pm, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > I take issue with a lot of Israel's policies; (I am also familiar with the > USS Liberty allegations; which are unproven). > > I am baffled as to why we have not forced Israel to accept UN Resolution > 242, which allowed for a separate Jewish, as well as a Palestinian State. > > Having said all of the above, Israel is still an ally of the United States, > and a Western style democracy. Whether you like it, or don't like it. > > As I have said on numerous occasions to you, in a number of discussions, > the Jews and Israel are not the enemy right now, the fanatical Muslims and > the Nation-States that they control are, and you continously miss the big > picture on this issue. > > Again, there is a big divergence of opinion between the minority of Ron Paul > supporters, who believe that it is interventionist to, "Carry A Big Stick"; > I see nothing at all wrong with this aspect of our foreign policy, I don't > believe that we have been interventionists for the most part in the Middle > East Region, and history proves me out. > > Just like the example of Paul claiming that we were at war with Iran in > 1953, because we supported the winning coup that overthrew a corrupt > government, (and replaced it with another corrupt government, *e.g*.; the > Shah of Iran). Where Paul sees error with this action, I don't, and > neither do most of Americans. > > On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 1:09 PM, plainolamerican > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > > > I do have a qualm with Iran having anything remotely capable of > > blowing up > > millions of folks > > --- > > and what about Pakistan and Israel? > > both of these countries are filled with anti-American scum, yet they > > get your pass? > > > face it, Keith ... US intervention policies fail every time. In the > > middle east, US policies are slanted toward Israel's best interests > > though they have attacked and killed our servicemen, bribe and spy on > > our government officials, and have a stranglehold on our politicians > > and immigration laws. > > > choose sides carefully > > > On Aug 18, 9:39 am, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Based on the actions of Iran and its theological government, no, I don't > > at > > > all feel comfortable with Iran having a nuclear weapon. > > > > Yep, "We", (the United States) are the big kids on the block. Despite > > > this socialist Moonbat we have for a President, and the fact that the > > > economy is just flat out tanking today, we still live in the most > > vibrant, > > > (largest manufacturing country) creative, trend setting, free market > > > economy State, and most free-est (is that a word?) Nation-State in the > > > world. There are a lot of individuals collectively who are not amused > > by > > > this, and hate us for what we are. Some are just downright envious. > > > Nevertheless, we also have the largest arsenals of weaponry, and I for > > one > > > have no qualm with that. > > > > I do have a qualm with Iran having anything remotely capable of blowing > > up > > > millions of folks, and herein lies the distinction between you and I, Ron > > > Paul supporters nad the rest of the Republican (and most of the > > Democrat) > > > Party. > > > > On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 2:27 AM, raymorphic <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > "There is a distinction however, between "Intervention" and > > > > "Isolation". > > > > Dr. Paul espouses the latter..." > > > > ---- > > > > > And There is a distinction between "Interventionism", "Non- > > > > Interventionism", and "Isolationism" > > > > > 1) > > > > Ron Paul is "Non-Interventionism". He wants to trade with people, talk > > > > to people, and be friends with people, but he does not want the U.S. > > > > to tell how other countries should live their live. > > > > > Ron Paul Educates McCain > > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Q9WzCrLuC4 > > > > > 2) > > > > What's the rationale behind N. Non-Proliferation Treaty? > > > > > Irrational. > > > > > Legalization of big countries bullying smaller countries. > > > > > That's what it is. > > > > > "No one has answered – or until now, even asked – the obvious > > > > question: Why is it that the United States can have a nuclear arsenal > > > > far larger than that of every other country in the world combined, but > > > > that Iran can’t have even a single nuclear bomb – especially when > > > > Israel, Pakistan, and India have nuclear weapons?" > > > > Harry Browne--(2005) > > > > > 3) > > > > Suppose Iran does have one, so what? > > > > > All its neighboring countries have one. > > > > > Do you think they can just drop one without paying a heavy price when > > > > other countries retaliate? > > > > > -- > > > > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > > > > For options & help seehttp://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > > > > * Visit our other community athttp://www.PoliticalForum.com/ > > > > * It's active and moderated. 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