I still don't agree with your assessment of what constitutes Fascism......
On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 1:00 PM, MJ <[email protected]> wrote: > > > How is voting for a Candidate who is not (presumably) Fascist (or > certainly lesser so than Obama and the Echo) ... a vote 'against' defeating > socialism? More of that Orwellian Newspeak? Fearmongering? > > Regard$, > --MJ > > "A lot of the libertarian ideas that Ron Paul is talking about…should not > be alien to any Republican." -- Jim DeMint > > > > At 10:13 AM 5/6/2012, you wrote: > > Hello Bruce! > > I am quite familiar with the Libertarian Party! While living in Charlotte > North Carolina when I was so unceremoniously "dumped" from the Republican > Party back in 1991, I joined the Libertarian Party, (and know probably > quite a few of the folks that you still know!) I learned the true > definition of, "Cluster Fuck". > > Having said that, I still hold dear most libertarian principals and > tenets. (Despite what Michael thinks.....) Most conservatives hold > Constitutional, libertarian principals as the gospel. I also know that we > need each and every vote to defeat the socialists and communists this year, > and a vote for Gary Johnson by conservative libertarians hurts the cause. > > Keith > > On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 9:15 AM, Bruce Majors <[email protected] > > wrote: > I wouldn't count on that > > But if you are lucky Johnson will run a pro gay marriage anti drug war > campaign that pulls Obama leaning kids and independents from Lord Zero > > Our platform rarely changes since it is about immutable truths about > individual liberty > > > On Sunday, May 6, 2012, Keith In Tampa <[email protected] > wrote: > > I thought this was worth noting, and in general, pretty damn good! > Congrats to our Libertarian Brothers, who will hopefully get on board and > support the Republican Candidate when it counts come November! > > > > > > > > > > Libertarian Convention Rejects 7 of 9 Platform Plank Rewrites > > > > May 4th, 2012 · > > > > > http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2012/05/libertarian-convention-rejects-7-of-9-platform-plank-rewrites/ > > > > > > > > Delegates at the Libertarian National Convention today rejected 7 out of > 9 Platform Committee recommendations to rewrite various platform planks. > > > > The only rewrite that was approved as recommended was for 2.8. Education: > > > > Education , like any other service, is best provided by the free market, > achieving greater quality, accountability and efficiency with more > diversity of choice. Schools should be managed locally to achieve greater > accountability and parental involvement. Recognizing that the education of > children is inextricably linked to moral values a parental responsibility, > we would return authority to parents to determine the education of their > children, without interference from government. In particular, Parents > should have control of and responsibility for all funds expended for their > children’s education. > > > > Delegates also adopted a modified version of the recommendation for 3.5. > Rights and Discrimination: > > > > Libertarians embrace the concept that all people are born with certain > inherent rights. We reject the idea that a natural right can ever impose an > obligation upon others to fulfill that “right.” We condemn bigotry as > irrational and repugnant. Government should not neither deny nor abridge > any individual’s human rights based on sex, wealth, race, color ethnicity, > creed, age, national origin, personal habits, political preference or > sexual orientation. Parents, or other guardians, have the right to raise > their children according to their own standards and beliefs. > > > > Delegates approved a recommendation to append a sentence to 3.6. > Representative Government: “We advocate initiative, referendum, recall and > repeal when used as popular checks on government.” The only other changes > were two one-word tweaks, changing “electoral” to “election” and > “restitution of” to “restitution to”. > > > > Delegates debated and rejected these PlatCom recommendations: > > > > Modify 3.5 to indicate that parental rights over children are not > absolute. > > Rewrite 1.0 to connect rights to the ability to make choices, and to > replace force-initiation language with a statement that government’s proper > role is to protect rights. > > Rewrite 2.7 to oppose government employee unions and defined-benefit > public employee pensions. > > Rewrite 2.5 to oppose bailouts while dropping language about banking, > currency, and legal tender. > > Rewrite 1.2 to reference self-ownership and replace “drug” and > “victimless crime” references with broad language about consuming “media > and substances” and accepting risks to one’s own “health, finances, safety, > or life”. > > > > With time running out for the platform debate, the rules were suspended > to vote up or down on 3 of the last 4 recommendations: > > > > Rephrase 3.4 with language about “the American dream” and “the general > welfare”. > > Rewrite 2.4 to call for the “eventual elimination” of income taxes. > > Replace 1.6 language opposing all gun-control laws with the statement > that private property owners can set gun possession rules. > > > > Delegates rejected all 3 recommendations. With only 3 minutes left to > consider the final recommendations on the abortion plank, the convention > adjourned for the day. > > > > The resulting 2012 Platform can be seen here (with 2012 changes > highlighted). > > > > The Platform debate had opened with a report on the plank retention > voting. No plank received enough tokens to be eligible for a plank > retention vote. The planks receiving the most tokens were: > > > > 74 – 1.4. Abortion > > 19 – 3.4. Free Trade and Migration > > 18 – 2.2. Environment > > 15 – 2.5. Money and Financial Markets > > 11 – 2.6. Monopolies and Corporations > > > > No other plank got more than 5 tokens. > > > > -- > > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > > For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > > > * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ > > * It's active and moderated. 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