passages that advocate violence can be found in the Koran, Talmud and NT. pick your poison
On Jun 18, 4:20 pm, Travis <[email protected]> wrote: > Jesus Akbar > > Recently a Yale theologian, Miroslav Volf, came to a Christian school, > Lipscomb<http://click.icptrack.com/icp/relay.php?r=8149463&msgid=885467&act=6V...>University, > and talked about how Islam and Christianity can live in harmony > and respect. He is part of a new industry in America, Christians > constructing beautiful lies about Islam. Fundamentally, he says that we all > worship the same god. > > *Volf says, “one of the best ways for people of different faiths to get > along is to study their scriptures together.”* > > If we want to get along, then looking at looking at scriptures is indeed a > most excellent way to get to know each other. The problem is that the only > scripture Volf wants to study is the Koran. Any time that someone wants to > explain Islam by the Koran, you are dealing with someone who is ignorant or > a deceiver. > > The Koran proclaims in 91 verses that every Muslim is to model their life > after the example (Sunna) of Mohammed, but the Sunna of Mohammed is found > only in the Sira and the Hadith. The Koran is only 14% of the Islamic > sacred texts. Mohammed, not Allah, is 86% of the textual doctrine. Volf, > however, ignores Mohammed and only wants to talk about Allah. There is a > very good reason for this. Allah is so conveniently abstract that he can > construct his Allah-equals-the-Trinity-god by cherry-picking verses and > muddle through as if he were in a dormitory philosophy bull session. > > While Volf is comparing scriptures, he should point out that the Koran says > that Jesus of the Bible is a fraud and that the Gospels, Psalms and Torah > are corrupt. That inconvenient Koranic detail was not mentioned. > > Volf ignores a 1400 year history of Islam and Christianity and all other > religions. The jihad doctrine found in the Koran is the foundation for the > murder of 270 million Kafirs (non-Muslims, including Christians). He also > ignores the over 18,000 Islamic terror > attacks<http://click.icptrack.com/icp/relay.php?r=8149463&msgid=885467&act=6V...>since > September 11, 2001. Why refer to a 1400 year history of continuous > persecution if it gets in the way of your arguments? What are ugly facts in > the face of a beautiful lie? > > *Volf: Two faiths, worshipping the same God, can work toward the common > good under a single government.* > > Hello, the only government that Allah wants is the Sharia. The place for > Christianity and Judaism in the Sharia is as the *dhimmi*, a semi-slave. > History is very clear that when the Sharia is put into place, Christianity > dies. It takes centuries, but Christianity is annihilated. Christianity can > survive Communism and Nazism, but it cannot survive the Sharia. When Islam > invaded what is now Turkey and installed Sharia, it was 100% Christian. > Here is a graph of what Sharia law did to the Christian population. > > *Volf : Allah offers a constructive way forward by reversing the “our God > vs. their God” premise that destroys bridges between neighbors and nations, > magnifies fears, and creates strife.* > > Mohammed, the prophet of Allah, did not just destroy bridges, he destroyed > civilizations. Mohammed attacked each and every neighbor until the day he > died. That is the Sunna of Mohammed (perfect example of a sacred life). > After he died, his Companions (Abu Baker, Umar and Uthman) followed his > Sunna just as he demonstrated, and they killed Christians as fast as they > could and placed them under Sharia law as dhimmis. By the time the > Companion caliphs died, they had destroyed the classical civilization of > the Greeks and Romans that was the matrix of Christianity. The classical > church in the Middle East with its incredible variety of Christianity was > annihilated by Mohammed and his personal students of jihad. The > Christianity of today is a stump of the Christianity of the year 630 AD > when jihad began. Whole forms of early Christianity were annihilated by > Islamic jihad. > > And the Koran spoke wonderfully of Mohammed’s jihad. In the Koran written > in Medina, about > 24%<http://click.icptrack.com/icp/relay.php?r=8149463&msgid=885467&act=6V...>is > devoted to “fighting in Allah’s cause”, jihad. > > *Volf said, “Faith is often misused for political ends, which frequently > leads to violence.”* > > Mohammed preached the religion of Islam for 13 years and garnered 150 > converts. After he turned to politics and jihad and when he died every Arab > was a Muslim. It was politics and jihad which made him successful. > > The moral demand on Muslims is to practice jihad, deceive Kafirs and impose > Sharia law. Islamic morality is dualistic. Islamic ethics have one set of > rules for Muslims and a second set of rules for Kafirs. Ethics based on the > Golden Rule have only one set of rules. > > *Thick spirituality, Volf said, is faith combined with morality, which > treats all people as equal in God’s sight.* > > Yet we have Allah who hates Kafirs and who does not have a Golden Rule. > Only the Golden Rule makes people equal in God’s sight. Allah denies the > Golden Rule. Go ahead, plow through the Koran and find the Golden Rule. Do > the same for the Sira and the Hadith. No, the way Mohammed treated you > depended upon who you are. A Muslim is treated well, and a Kafir is treated > to murder, rape, enslavement and deceit. > > A religion of the Golden Rule can lead to peace. A religion of jihad and > political Sharia leads to war. Islam will not admit to any fault or take > any credit for 270,000,000 dead over the last 1400 years. Look at Islamic > Turkey—Turkish Muslims murdered a million Armenians in 20th century, but > will not admit to this annihilation and genocide. > > Lipscomb professor David Fleer, one of the conference organizers, said that > Volf’s experiences in Yugoslavia and his scholarship made him the perfect > speaker to address how religion and reconciliation intersect. “He set forth > the theological foundation for us,” Fleer said. > > Exactly why is this man an expert? An expert is made only by studying the > Sira, Hadith, Koran and Sharia—not his zip code. There is one, and only one > criteria for being expert on Islam—knowledge about Allah and Mohammed. Volf > only talks about Allah. > > But the real tragedy is that a religion professor thinks that Volf’s > inventions are a solid foundation. Contemporary Christian and Jewish > theology has become mere philosophy and has its foundation in Leftist > social justice doctrine, not scriptures. > > Volf said one of the keys to people of different faiths getting along is > for each side to admit that those of other faiths are real members of the > community. “It’s not just creating space for them physically,” he said. > “You have to create space for them in your own cultural self-perception.” > > But Islam insists that Kafirs are not part of the *umma* (Islamic > community) which is pure Islamic doctrine. There are 11 > verses<http://click.icptrack.com/icp/relay.php?r=8149463&msgid=885467&act=6V...>in > the Koran that say that a Muslim is not even the friend of a Kafir, > much > less a member of the community. > > Islam comes into our civilization and demands the political Sharia. Notice > that the accommodation is that we submit to the political Sharia and we > have to create a space for it in our culture. And the political Sharia has > a definite space for the Kafir, called dhimmi. What is disgusting is that > Volf makes submitting to political Sharia seem like a blessing to us and > our country. > > There is a certain class consciousness in the article, Volf’s Yale elitism > is all over the copy. Why is it that the elites are such believers? Why do > those who understand the threat of Islam and Sharia called “haters” by the > media? The elites control the venue. There is no space in the print media, > except for Islam and its apologists. The knowledgeable opposition never > gets to debate, is never invited to the party. The elites have ruled that > the only views that are legal are Muslims and apologists. Those who > disagree are immoral bigots and Islamophobes. > > Here is the final test of the “we-all-worship-the-same-god” school of > theology. What was the last time that a Christian yelled, “Jesus Akbar” > before he blew himself up? What was the last time that a Muslim yelled, > “Allahu Akbar”, before he murdered a Kafir? > > Sure, all gods are the same. > > ------------------------------ -- Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more.
