you can do with your semen what you want ... but if you drop it in a woman it's no longer just yours What a shame that this is not a two way street... It is still partially still mine or there would be no support payments...
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 1:22 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected]>wrote: > In today's' secular world it is a woman's' absolute right > --- > as it should be > > To wear next to nothing and do as she pleases with a man and a simple > "no" or its' equivalent makes it all his fault regardless of what was > going on. > --- > no means no > > To use "the pill" or not. > -- > a woman's choice > > To abort or not. > --- > a woman's choice > > Yet if the woman decides to have the child the man is forced to pay > for something (the kid support...possibly 25-26 years) that was > actually and ONLY under the legal control of the woman. > --- > sucks, eh? > > Since the bill for child support now hovers (average) 600 - 1500 > dollars per month I think that this alone would give the man the right > to be involved in all decisions that involve the use of his semen. > --- > you can do with your semen what you want ... but if you drop it in a > woman it's no longer just yours > > On Jun 19, 2:08 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE <[email protected]> wrote: > > In today's' secular world it is a woman's' absolute right > > > > To wear next to nothing and do as she pleases with a man and a simple > > "no" or its' equivalent makes it all his fault regardless of what was > > going on. > > > > To use "the pill" or not. > > > > To abort or not. > > > > Yet if the woman decides to have the child the man is forced to pay > > for something (the kid support...possibly 25-26 years) that was > > actually and ONLY under the legal control of the woman. > > > > Since the bill for child support now hovers (average) 600 - 1500 > > dollars per month I think that this alone would give the man the right > > to be involved in all decisions that involve the use of his semen. > > > > On Jun 19, 9:58 am, plainolamerican <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After offending Majority Floor Leader Jim Stamas by using the > > > offensively medically accurate word "vagina" in an impassioned floor > > > speech opposing Michigan's draconian new abortion law, State > > > Representative Lisa Brown was banned indefinitely from speaking on the > > > floor of the House of Representatives. Her colleague Barb Byrum, > > > another passionate pro-choice elected official, was also served with > > > an indefinite Shut The Fuck Up order from the the male-lead body. > > > Apparently, during Michigan's War on Women, ladies aren't even allowed > > > to serve in combat. > > > > > Byrum and Brown joined several of their female colleagues in voicing > > > their vehement opposition to Michigan's anti-abortion bill, a steaming > > > pile of misogyny that would criminalize all abortions after 20 weeks' > > > gestation in all cases (so, if you had some terribly severe birth > > > defects, too bad, sister — you carry that dead baby until that dead > > > baby decides to be born) and contains no exceptions for the woman's > > > health. It also straps abortion providing facilities with new burdens > > > designed solely to make it a pain in the ass for them to operate. > > > > > As you might expect, debate's been heated. Hundreds of women have > > > flooded the capitol to protest the bill's careless fast tracking, ham- > > > fisted paternalism, and disingenuous concern mongering. Yesterday, > > > before the bill was passed by the House, several female state > > > representatives stood up to voice their opposition to the proposal. > > > And two of them got a little too uppity for the male Speaker's taste. > > > Want to get mad? Of course you do. Anger is the only way you know how > > > to feel feelings anymore. Read on; it gets worse. > > > > > Rather than be a manly man and tell the women to their face that they > > > had upset the Speaker, Bolger acted like a mincing, spineless ninny > > > and relayed the women's speaking ban through their party's House > > > leader. He gave no explanation as to why the women were banned, so > > > both are left guessing (and fuming) today. > > > > > Byrum's silencing is a little more cut and dry than Brown's; she spoke > > > out of turn (after trying, unsuccessfully, to be recognized to speak), > > > which is technically a violation of House rules, which means that the > > > Speaker was within his rights to reprimand her. But legislators speak > > > out of turn fairly regularly, and only rarely are they told to sit > > > down and shut up, officially. > > > > > I spoke with Rep. Lisa Brown, who was on the floor of the Michigan > > > State House when we talked (because it's not like she was allowed to > > > participate in any debates today, right!? Cry.). She's confused about > > > what she did to offend the Man-Gods who want to run Michigan's > > > uteruses, but she's got a couple of theories. During yesterday's > > > speech, she mentioned her Jewish faith, which she thought might have > > > irked Republicans. But more plausible is the explanation that it was > > > her use of the medically accurate, anatomically correct word "vagina" > > > during the debate ("I'm flattered that you're all so interested in my > > > vagina, but no means no.") grossed her male colleagues out. "What word > > > should I have said?" she asked. Apparently, "vagina" is another v-word > > > that Must Not Be Named. Like Voldemort. > > > > > Brown's looking into her post-ban legal options, as her inability to > > > speak on the floor of the House means that her constituents are > > > effectively unable to have their Representative weigh in. Both women > > > have been told (through their party leader because Michigan > > > Republicans are trying to break the douchebaggery land speed record) > > > that the ban is indefinite. > > > > > Women have been absent from the debate around a bill that seeks to > > > govern their bodies from Day 1. During committee, no pro-choice women > > > were allowed to speak. Planned Parenthood was barred from testifying. > > > And now this — two pro-choice female legislators all-out banned from > > > voicing an opinion on the state's role in their anatomy. This is un- > > > fucking-believable, and inexcusable. To borrow a phrase from my > > > grandmother, Michigan Republicans should be ashamed of themselves. > > > > > Let this be a lesson to you, women: shut up and let men do all the > > > deciding about your bodies. > > -- > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > * Read the latest breaking news, and more. > -- *Mark M. Kahle H.* * * * * -- Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. 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