What a shame that this is not a two way street
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yeah

This is a long, strange tale about a woman who stole her now ex-
boyfriend’s sperm from a used condom and then used it to impregnate
herself with twins through IVF. She then went ahead and sued her ex
for child support – and won! The baffled ex, meanwhile, is suing the
fertility clinic that performed the procedure without his knowledge.

Read more: 
http://mommyish.com/stuff/woman-steals-ex-boyfriends-sperm-has-twins-sues-for-child-support-836/#ixzz1yGpaIePM


On Jun 19, 2:30 pm, Mark <[email protected]> wrote:
> you can do with your semen what you want ... but if you drop it in a
> woman it's no longer just yours
> What a shame that this is not a two way street... It is still partially
> still mine or there would be no support payments...
>
> On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 1:22 PM, plainolamerican
> <[email protected]>wrote:
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> > In today's' secular world it is a woman's' absolute right
> > ---
> > as it should be
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> > To wear next to nothing and do as she pleases with a man and a  simple
> > "no" or its' equivalent makes it all his fault regardless of what was
> > going on.
> > ---
> > no means no
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> > To use "the pill" or not.
> > --
> > a woman's choice
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> > To abort or not.
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> > a woman's choice
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> > Yet if the woman decides to have the child the man is forced to pay
> > for something (the kid support...possibly 25-26 years) that was
> > actually and ONLY under the legal control of the woman.
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> > sucks, eh?
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> > Since the bill for child support now hovers (average) 600 - 1500
> > dollars per month I think that this alone would give the man the right
> > to be involved in all decisions that involve the use of his semen.
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> > you can do with your semen what you want ... but if you drop it in a
> > woman it's no longer just yours
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> > On Jun 19, 2:08 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > In today's' secular world it is a woman's' absolute right
>
> > > To wear next to nothing and do as she pleases with a man and a  simple
> > > "no" or its' equivalent makes it all his fault regardless of what was
> > > going on.
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> > > To use "the pill" or not.
>
> > > To abort or not.
>
> > > Yet if the woman decides to have the child the man is forced to pay
> > > for something (the kid support...possibly 25-26 years) that was
> > > actually and ONLY under the legal control of the woman.
>
> > > Since the bill for child support now hovers (average) 600 - 1500
> > > dollars per month I think that this alone would give the man the right
> > > to be involved in all decisions that involve the use of his semen.
>
> > > On Jun 19, 9:58 am, plainolamerican <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > > After offending Majority Floor Leader Jim Stamas by using the
> > > > offensively medically accurate word "vagina" in an impassioned floor
> > > > speech opposing Michigan's draconian new abortion law, State
> > > > Representative Lisa Brown was banned indefinitely from speaking on the
> > > > floor of the House of Representatives. Her colleague Barb Byrum,
> > > > another passionate pro-choice elected official, was also served with
> > > > an indefinite Shut The Fuck Up order from the the male-lead body.
> > > > Apparently, during Michigan's War on Women, ladies aren't even allowed
> > > > to serve in combat.
>
> > > > Byrum and Brown joined several of their female colleagues in voicing
> > > > their vehement opposition to Michigan's anti-abortion bill, a steaming
> > > > pile of misogyny that would criminalize all abortions after 20 weeks'
> > > > gestation in all cases (so, if you had some terribly severe birth
> > > > defects, too bad, sister — you carry that dead baby until that dead
> > > > baby decides to be born) and contains no exceptions for the woman's
> > > > health. It also straps abortion providing facilities with new burdens
> > > > designed solely to make it a pain in the ass for them to operate.
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> > > > As you might expect, debate's been heated. Hundreds of women have
> > > > flooded the capitol to protest the bill's careless fast tracking, ham-
> > > > fisted paternalism, and disingenuous concern mongering. Yesterday,
> > > > before the bill was passed by the House, several female state
> > > > representatives stood up to voice their opposition to the proposal.
> > > > And two of them got a little too uppity for the male Speaker's taste.
> > > > Want to get mad? Of course you do. Anger is the only way you know how
> > > > to feel feelings anymore. Read on; it gets worse.
>
> > > > Rather than be a manly man and tell the women to their face that they
> > > > had upset the Speaker, Bolger acted like a mincing, spineless ninny
> > > > and relayed the women's speaking ban through their party's House
> > > > leader. He gave no explanation as to why the women were banned, so
> > > > both are left guessing (and fuming) today.
>
> > > > Byrum's silencing is a little more cut and dry than Brown's; she spoke
> > > > out of turn (after trying, unsuccessfully, to be recognized to speak),
> > > > which is technically a violation of House rules, which means that the
> > > > Speaker was within his rights to reprimand her. But legislators speak
> > > > out of turn fairly regularly, and only rarely are they told to sit
> > > > down and shut up, officially.
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> > > > I spoke with Rep. Lisa Brown, who was on the floor of the Michigan
> > > > State House when we talked (because it's not like she was allowed to
> > > > participate in any debates today, right!? Cry.). She's confused about
> > > > what she did to offend the Man-Gods who want to run Michigan's
> > > > uteruses, but she's got a couple of theories. During yesterday's
> > > > speech, she mentioned her Jewish faith, which she thought might have
> > > > irked Republicans. But more plausible is the explanation that it was
> > > > her use of the medically accurate, anatomically correct word "vagina"
> > > > during the debate ("I'm flattered that you're all so interested in my
> > > > vagina, but no means no.") grossed her male colleagues out. "What word
> > > > should I have said?" she asked. Apparently, "vagina" is another v-word
> > > > that Must Not Be Named. Like Voldemort.
>
> > > > Brown's looking into her post-ban legal options, as her inability to
> > > > speak on the floor of the House means that her constituents are
> > > > effectively unable to have their Representative weigh in. Both women
> > > > have been told (through their party leader because Michigan
> > > > Republicans are trying to break the douchebaggery land speed record)
> > > > that the ban is indefinite.
>
> > > > Women have been absent from the debate around a bill that seeks to
> > > > govern their bodies from Day 1. During committee, no pro-choice women
> > > > were allowed to speak. Planned Parenthood was barred from testifying.
> > > > And now this — two pro-choice female legislators all-out banned from
> > > > voicing an opinion on the state's role in their anatomy. This is un-
> > > > fucking-believable, and inexcusable. To borrow a phrase from my
> > > > grandmother, Michigan Republicans should be ashamed of themselves.
>
> > > > Let this be a lesson to you, women: shut up and let men do all the
> > > > deciding about your bodies.
>
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