This is where Plain Ol puts on his blinders. He refuses to acknowledge that homosexuals have the same, identical rights and privileges as we do --- bs ... gays can't marry gays
They can marry anyone, just like I can --- not true ... they can't marry each other They want to get away from the religious connotations of marriage, --- religion doesn't own marriage civil unions are unacceptable to secuarlists and militant homosexuals. --- they want marriage ... and they'll get it, regardless of what the myth believing religious want On Jun 21, 1:26 am, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > This is where Plain Ol puts on his blinders. He refuses to acknowledge > that homosexuals have the same, identical rights and privileges as we > do......The statement that "Gays can't get married" is, as you said Mark, > patently false. They can marry anyone, just like I can, who will marry > them. The distinction, (and again, Plain Ol doesn't want to acknowledge > this) is that secularists and Gay militants want to change the definition > of marriage. They want to get away from the religious connotations of > marriage, (re-writing history for the secularists) and shoving down an > alternative lifestyle as being, "normal" from the militant Gay > standpoint. Again, equality has nothing to do with it; as civil unions > are unacceptable to secuarlists and militant homosexuals. > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 7:31 AM, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > > no they don't as gays aren't 'allowed' to get married. > > > That is patently false and you well know it. Any man (Gay or not) may > > marry any woman... he so desires and that will agree. > > > Gays and Straights alike are limited to this. The vast majority of the US > > population (for whatever reason and as evidenced in 33 popular votes in 33 > > Sovereign States have said so. I want to build to my lot line, nobody in my > > neighborhood can get a permit variance for that either... yet it is MY land > > and I would love the extra security and other soft warm fuzzy feelings that > > would come with it... > > > Ten states now have legally equal laws on the books for Gay Civil Unions. > > Yet in every one of those states they want the word "Marriage" on that > > permit... So you see it is NOT equal rights... they have them in at least > > ten states... > > > On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 11:20 PM, plainolamerican < > > [email protected]> wrote: > > >> Even I don't have that right... > >> --- > >> yes you do ... all you have to do is buy a permit > > >> If i choose to buy a permit the very same rules apply to me and the > >> Gay guy... and they apply > >> equally. > >> --- > >> no they don't as gays aren't 'allowed' to get married. > > >> it's the religious who persecute homosexuals. > > >> again, I don't have a dog in this fight but I do recognize persecution > >> when I see it. > > >> our sexual preferences are ours ... not to be impeded by the state or > >> the religious. > > >> On Jun 20, 3:41 pm, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > to get married ... for starters > > >> > Even I don't have that right... I have to buy a permit. If i choose to > >> buy > >> > a permit the very same rules apply to me and the Gay guy... and they > >> apply > >> > equally. > > >> > Try again. > > >> > On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 1:59 PM, plainolamerican > >> > <[email protected]>wrote: > > >> > > EXACTLY what "right" don't they have that I do ?? > >> > > --- > >> > > to get married ... for starters > > >> > > On Jun 20, 2:42 pm, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > > they want the same rights ... not more rights > > >> > > > EXACTLY what "right" don't they have that I do ?? This is one > >> question no > >> > > > one on the pro Gay side has ever been able to answer... > > >> > > > On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 12:45 PM, plainolamerican < > >> > > [email protected] > > >> > > > > wrote: > >> > > > > If you think that I am some type of Bible thumping zealot, you are > >> > > > > very > >> > > > > much mistaken. > >> > > > > --- > >> > > > > did I imply that you are? > > >> > > > > I find it somewhat humorous, but mostly disturbing that folks > >> like you > >> > > > > get > >> > > > > your drawers all up in a wad over Christians, > >> > > > > --- > >> > > > > accusation noted and completely false > > >> > > > > and that we are pretty much > >> > > > > the majority in this Nation. We don't make a big fuss about > >> much; we > >> > > > > don't have a lot of demands.....The far left mock us; the > >> secularists > >> > > > > like > >> > > > > yourself want to see us wiped from the history books; and yet, we > >> > > > > continue > >> > > > > to "Continue On", keeping a low profile, and having, "Faith". > >> > > > > --- > >> > > > > you are more than welcome to keep your faith > > >> > > > > I have no objections to, or any problems with homosexuals, and > >> > > > > whatever it > >> > > > > is that they do. > >> > > > > --- > >> > > > > so, you don't believe that homosexuality is sinful like most other > >> > > > > christians, jews, and muzzies? > > >> > > > > It might be a wonderful thing for all I know, and their > >> > > > > lifestyle(s) might truly be "Da Big Big Party"; again, I don't > >> > > > > know. I > >> > > > > do know that when ANY group or organization starts clamoring for > >> more > >> > > > > rights and privileges than you or I have, because of their > >> behavior; > >> > > > > just > >> > > > > like when I smell horse hockey, I usually say as much. > >> > > > > --- > >> > > > > they want the same rights ... not more rights > > >> > > > > On Jun 20, 10:19 am, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > > > > > Plain Ol, > > >> > > > > > If you think that I am some type of Bible thumping zealot, you > >> are > >> > > very > >> > > > > > much mistaken. I am a Christian, and have not a problem > >> admitting > >> > > to > >> > > > > > that, or being ashamed of my, "Faith", (and I emphasize that > >> > > "Faith" is > >> > > > > > the operative word there). I'm not, "Fishing For Men"; I'm > >> not out > >> > > on > >> > > > > the > >> > > > > > street corner handing out leaflets, nor do I go to folks houses > >> on > >> > > > > Saturday > >> > > > > > mornings trying to get them to hear, "The Word". > > >> > > > > > I find it somewhat humorous, but mostly disturbing that folks > >> like > >> > > you > >> > > > > get > >> > > > > > your drawers all up in a wad over Christians, and that we are > >> pretty > >> > > much > >> > > > > > the majority in this Nation. We don't make a big fuss about > >> much; > >> > > we > >> > > > > > don't have a lot of demands.....The far left mock us; the > >> > > secularists > >> > > > > like > >> > > > > > yourself want to see us wiped from the history books; and yet, > >> we > >> > > > > continue > >> > > > > > to "Continue On", keeping a low profile, and having, "Faith". > > >> > > > > > I have no objections to, or any problems with homosexuals, and > >> > > whatever > >> > > > > it > >> > > > > > is that they do. It might be a wonderful thing for all I know, > >> and > >> > > their > >> > > > > > lifestyle(s) might truly be "Da Big Big Party"; again, I don't > >> > > know. I > >> > > > > > do know that when ANY group or organization starts clamoring > >> for more > >> > > > > > rights and privileges than you or I have, because of their > >> behavior; > >> > > > > just > >> > > > > > like when I smell horse hockey, I usually say as much. > > >> > > > > > On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 4:46 PM, plainolamerican > >> > > > > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > >> > > > > > > It's just a matter of time before the lid blows off of this > >> whole > >> > > > > > > fraud. > >> > > > > > > --- > >> > > > > > > you're right ... the religious in the military need to be > >> muzzled > >> > > like > >> > > > > > > rabid dogs. > > >> > > > > > > the military is going to say enough > >> > > > > > > --- > >> > > > > > > and American will tell them to stfu or get out. > > >> > > > > > > DADT is the best that the religious in the military can hope > >> for. > > >> > > > > > > On Jun 20, 1:50 am, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > > > > > > > It's just a matter of time before the lid blows off of this > >> whole > >> > > > > > > > fraud. The first Gay Pride parade, where folks are parading > >> > > around > >> > > > > with > >> > > > > > > > their uniforms all "gussied" up, and/or there will be > >> some "Gay > >> > > > > Drama" > >> > > > > > > > from the likes of someone like Lil'TommyTomTomForNews, > >> shit will > >> > > > > > > literally > >> > > > > > > > hit the fan, and the military is going to say enough. > > >> > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 9:20 PM, plainolamerican > >> > > > > > > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > > only DADT stopped the enforcement of these policies. > >> > > > > > > > > --- > >> > > > > > > > > as it should > > >> > > > > > > > > The tide > >> > > > > > > > > will soon turn and the complaints will start. > >> > > > > > > > > ---- > >> > > > > > > > > warmongers are hardly concerned about gay rights > > >> > > > > > > > > On Jun 19, 2:11 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE < > >> [email protected]> > >> > > > > wrote: > >> > > > > > > > > > Actually, Plainol... all the draconian laws that > >> persecuted > >> > > and > >> > > > > > > > > > prosecuted Gays before DADT was put in place are now > >> back on > >> > > the > >> > > > > > > > > > books... only DADT stopped the enforcement of these > >> > > policies. The > >> > > > > > > tide > >> > > > > > > > > > will soon turn and the complaints will start. > > >> > > > > > > > > > On Jun 19, 9:05 am, plainolamerican < > >> > > [email protected]> > >> > > > > > > wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > > > > the US military, unlike the religious, does not > >> persecute > >> > > > > > > homosexuals. > > >> > > > > > > > > > > the grip that xians once had on America is gone ... > >> free at > >> > > > > last! > > >> > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 19, 10:02 am, Travis <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Will they be celebrating "Ramitdown" next? > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > ** > >> > > > > > > > > > > > New post on *ACGR's "News with Attitude"* > >> > > > > > > > > > > > <http://a4cgr.wordpress.com/author/amcogore/> The > >> > > Many, The > >> > > > > > > Gay, > >> > > > > > > > > The New > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Marines to Celebrate Gay Pride > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Month<http://a4cgr.wordpress.com/2012/06/19/05-972/ > >> >by > > ... > > read more » -- Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. 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