Everyone is legal.... yes. But there are limits within the permits issued as there is with ALL permits. These limits are set by the communities (in this case ..the state) that issues them. Hearings are held, votes are taken and the majority win... in this case the ONLY thing that sets the gay community apart from the straight community is sexual proclivity... this is NOT a federally controlled activity and therefore is not entitled to "protection" / thank god it is not... I do not want the feds in my or anyone elses' bedroom.... do you? Once the door is opened it can never be shut as to scope or purpose.
On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 12:17 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected] > wrote: > In most of Europe this is rather simple... Here in Costa Rica as > well.... > EVERYONE gets a civil union (legal). You can then go to the church of > your > choice and be "married"... > --- > works for me ... but then I'm not gay. > > that way everyone is legal, with the SAME rights ... and any church > that wants to marry gays can do so or not > > On Jun 21, 6:43 pm, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > > not true ... they can't marry each other > > > > Neither can I...Thats called equality. > > > > In most of Europe this is rather simple... Here in Costa Rica as well.... > > EVERYONE gets a civil union (legal). You can then go to the church of > your > > choice and be "married"... > > > > On Thu, Jun 2ity > > 1, 2012 at 9:31 AM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is where Plain Ol puts on his blinders. He refuses to > > > acknowledge > > > that homosexuals have the same, identical rights and privileges as we > > > do > > > --- > > > bs ... gays can't marry gays > > > > > They can marry anyone, just like I can > > > --- > > > not true ... they can't marry each other > > > > > They want to get away from the religious connotations of > > > marriage, > > > --- > > > religion doesn't own marriage > > > > > civil unions > > > are unacceptable to secuarlists and militant homosexuals. > > > --- > > > they want marriage ... and they'll get it, regardless of what the myth > > > believing religious want > > > > > On Jun 21, 1:26 am, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > This is where Plain Ol puts on his blinders. He refuses to > acknowledge > > > > that homosexuals have the same, identical rights and privileges as we > > > > do......The statement that "Gays can't get married" is, as you said > > > Mark, > > > > patently false. They can marry anyone, just like I can, who will > marry > > > > them. The distinction, (and again, Plain Ol doesn't want to > acknowledge > > > > this) is that secularists and Gay militants want to change the > definition > > > > of marriage. They want to get away from the religious connotations > of > > > > marriage, (re-writing history for the secularists) and shoving > down an > > > > alternative lifestyle as being, "normal" from the militant Gay > > > > standpoint. Again, equality has nothing to do with it; as civil > unions > > > > are unacceptable to secuarlists and militant homosexuals. > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 7:31 AM, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > no they don't as gays aren't 'allowed' to get married. > > > > > > > That is patently false and you well know it. Any man (Gay or not) > may > > > > > marry any woman... he so desires and that will agree. > > > > > > > Gays and Straights alike are limited to this. The vast majority of > the > > > US > > > > > population (for whatever reason and as evidenced in 33 popular > votes > > > in 33 > > > > > Sovereign States have said so. I want to build to my lot line, > nobody > > > in my > > > > > neighborhood can get a permit variance for that either... yet it > is MY > > > land > > > > > and I would love the extra security and other soft warm fuzzy > feelings > > > that > > > > > would come with it... > > > > > > > Ten states now have legally equal laws on the books for Gay Civil > > > Unions. > > > > > Yet in every one of those states they want the word "Marriage" on > that > > > > > permit... So you see it is NOT equal rights... they have them in at > > > least > > > > > ten states... > > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 11:20 PM, plainolamerican < > > > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > >> Even I don't have that right... > > > > >> --- > > > > >> yes you do ... all you have to do is buy a permit > > > > > > >> If i choose to buy a permit the very same rules apply to me and > the > > > > >> Gay guy... and they apply > > > > >> equally. > > > > >> --- > > > > >> no they don't as gays aren't 'allowed' to get married. > > > > > > >> it's the religious who persecute homosexuals. > > > > > > >> again, I don't have a dog in this fight but I do recognize > persecution > > > > >> when I see it. > > > > > > >> our sexual preferences are ours ... not to be impeded by the > state or > > > > >> the religious. > > > > > > >> On Jun 20, 3:41 pm, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> > to get married ... for starters > > > > > > >> > Even I don't have that right... I have to buy a permit. If i > choose > > > to > > > > >> buy > > > > >> > a permit the very same rules apply to me and the Gay guy... and > they > > > > >> apply > > > > >> > equally. > > > > > > >> > Try again. > > > > > > >> > On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 1:59 PM, plainolamerican > > > > >> > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > >> > > EXACTLY what "right" don't they have that I do ?? > > > > >> > > --- > > > > >> > > to get married ... for starters > > > > > > >> > > On Jun 20, 2:42 pm, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> > > > they want the same rights ... not more rights > > > > > > >> > > > EXACTLY what "right" don't they have that I do ?? This is > one > > > > >> question no > > > > >> > > > one on the pro Gay side has ever been able to answer... > > > > > > >> > > > On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 12:45 PM, plainolamerican < > > > > >> > > [email protected] > > > > > > >> > > > > wrote: > > > > >> > > > > If you think that I am some type of Bible thumping zealot, > > > you are > > > > >> > > > > very > > > > >> > > > > much mistaken. > > > > >> > > > > --- > > > > >> > > > > did I imply that you are? > > > > > > >> > > > > I find it somewhat humorous, but mostly disturbing that > folks > > > > >> like you > > > > >> > > > > get > > > > >> > > > > your drawers all up in a wad over Christians, > > > > >> > > > > --- > > > > >> > > > > accusation noted and completely false > > > > > > >> > > > > and that we are pretty much > > > > >> > > > > the majority in this Nation. We don't make a big fuss > about > > > > >> much; we > > > > >> > > > > don't have a lot of demands.....The far left mock us; the > > > > >> secularists > > > > >> > > > > like > > > > >> > > > > yourself want to see us wiped from the history books; and > > > yet, we > > > > >> > > > > continue > > > > >> > > > > to "Continue On", keeping a low profile, and having, > "Faith". > > > > >> > > > > --- > > > > >> > > > > you are more than welcome to keep your faith > > > > > > >> > > > > I have no objections to, or any problems with > homosexuals, and > > > > >> > > > > whatever it > > > > >> > > > > is that they do. > > > > >> > > > > --- > > > > >> > > > > so, you don't believe that homosexuality is sinful like > most > > > other > > > > >> > > > > christians, jews, and muzzies? > > > > > > >> > > > > It might be a wonderful thing for all I know, and their > > > > >> > > > > lifestyle(s) might truly be "Da Big Big Party"; again, I > > > don't > > > > >> > > > > know. I > > > > >> > > > > do know that when ANY group or organization starts > clamoring > > > for > > > > >> more > > > > >> > > > > rights and privileges than you or I have, because of their > > > > >> behavior; > > > > >> > > > > just > > > > >> > > > > like when I smell horse hockey, I usually say as much. > > > > >> > > > > --- > > > > >> > > > > they want the same rights ... not more rights > > > > > > >> > > > > On Jun 20, 10:19 am, Keith In Tampa < > [email protected]> > > > > >> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > Plain Ol, > > > > > > >> > > > > > If you think that I am some type of Bible thumping > zealot, > > > you > > > > >> are > > > > >> > > very > > > > >> > > > > > much mistaken. I am a Christian, and have not a > problem > > > > >> admitting > > > > >> > > to > > > > >> > > > > > that, or being ashamed of my, "Faith", (and I emphasize > > > that > > > > >> > > "Faith" is > > > > >> > > > > > the operative word there). I'm not, "Fishing For Men"; > I'm > > > > >> not out > > > > >> > > on > > > > >> > > > > the > > > > >> > > > > > street corner handing out leaflets, nor do I go to folks > > > houses > > > > >> on > > > > >> > > > > Saturday > > > > >> > > > > > mornings trying to get them to hear, "The Word". > > > > > > >> > > > > > I find it somewhat humorous, but mostly disturbing that > > > folks > > > > >> like > > > > >> > > you > > > > >> > > > > get > > > > >> > > > > > your drawers all up in a wad over Christians, and that > we > > > are > > > > >> pretty > > > > >> > > much > > > > >> > > > > > the majority in this Nation. We don't make a big fuss > about > > > > >> much; > > > > >> > > we > > > > >> > > > > > don't have a lot of demands.....The far left mock us; > the > > > > >> > > secularists > > > > >> > > > > like > > > > >> > > > > > yourself want to see us wiped from the history books; > and > > > yet, > > > > >> we > > > > >> > > > > continue > > > > >> > > > > > to "Continue On", keeping a low profile, and having, > > > "Faith". > > > > > > >> > > > > > I have no objections to, or any problems with > homosexuals, > > > and > > > > >> > > whatever > > > > >> > > > > it > > > > >> > > > > > is that they do. It might be a wonderful thing for all > I > > > know, > > > > >> and > > > > >> > > their > > > > >> > > > > > lifestyle(s) might truly be "Da Big Big Party"; again, > I > > > don't > > > > >> > > know. I > > > > >> > > > > > do know that when ANY group or organization starts > clamoring > > > > >> for more > > > > >> > > > > > rights and privileges than you or I have, because of > their > > > > >> behavior; > > > > >> > > > > just > > > > >> > > > > > like when I smell horse hockey, I usually say as much. > > > > > > >> > > > > > On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 4:46 PM, plainolamerican > > > > >> > > > > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > It's just a matter of time before the lid blows off > of > > > this > > > > >> whole > > > > >> > > > > > > fraud. > > > > >> > > > > > > --- > > > > >> > > > > > > you're right ... the religious in the military need > to be > > > > >> muzzled > > > > >> > > like > > > > >> > > > > > > rabid dogs. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > the military is going to say enough > > > > >> > > > > > > --- > > > > >> > > > > > > and American will tell them to stfu or get out. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > DADT is the best that the religious in the military > can > > > hope > > > > >> for. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > On Jun 20, 1:50 am, Keith In Tampa < > > > [email protected]> > > > > >> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > > > It's just a matter of time before the lid blows off > of > > > this > > > > >> whole > > > > >> > > > > > > > fraud. The first Gay Pride parade, where folks are > > > parading > > > > >> > > around > > > > >> > > > > with > > > > >> > > > > > > > their uniforms all "gussied" up, and/or there > will be > > > > >> some "Gay > > > > >> > > > > Drama" > > > > >> > > > > > > > from the likes of someone like > Lil'TommyTomTomForNews, > > > > >> shit will > > > > >> > > > > > > literally > > > > >> > > > > > > > hit the fan, and the military is going to say > enough. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 9:20 PM, plainolamerican > > > > ... > > > > read more ยป > > -- > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > * Read the latest breaking news, and more. > -- *Mark M. Kahle H.* * * * * -- Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. 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