not true ... they can't marry each other Neither can I...Thats called equality.
In most of Europe this is rather simple... Here in Costa Rica as well.... EVERYONE gets a civil union (legal). You can then go to the church of your choice and be "married"... On Thu, Jun 2ity 1, 2012 at 9:31 AM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> wrote: > This is where Plain Ol puts on his blinders. He refuses to > acknowledge > that homosexuals have the same, identical rights and privileges as we > do > --- > bs ... gays can't marry gays > > They can marry anyone, just like I can > --- > not true ... they can't marry each other > > They want to get away from the religious connotations of > marriage, > --- > religion doesn't own marriage > > civil unions > are unacceptable to secuarlists and militant homosexuals. > --- > they want marriage ... and they'll get it, regardless of what the myth > believing religious want > > On Jun 21, 1:26 am, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > > This is where Plain Ol puts on his blinders. He refuses to acknowledge > > that homosexuals have the same, identical rights and privileges as we > > do......The statement that "Gays can't get married" is, as you said > Mark, > > patently false. They can marry anyone, just like I can, who will marry > > them. The distinction, (and again, Plain Ol doesn't want to acknowledge > > this) is that secularists and Gay militants want to change the definition > > of marriage. They want to get away from the religious connotations of > > marriage, (re-writing history for the secularists) and shoving down an > > alternative lifestyle as being, "normal" from the militant Gay > > standpoint. Again, equality has nothing to do with it; as civil unions > > are unacceptable to secuarlists and militant homosexuals. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 7:31 AM, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > > > no they don't as gays aren't 'allowed' to get married. > > > > > That is patently false and you well know it. Any man (Gay or not) may > > > marry any woman... he so desires and that will agree. > > > > > Gays and Straights alike are limited to this. The vast majority of the > US > > > population (for whatever reason and as evidenced in 33 popular votes > in 33 > > > Sovereign States have said so. I want to build to my lot line, nobody > in my > > > neighborhood can get a permit variance for that either... yet it is MY > land > > > and I would love the extra security and other soft warm fuzzy feelings > that > > > would come with it... > > > > > Ten states now have legally equal laws on the books for Gay Civil > Unions. > > > Yet in every one of those states they want the word "Marriage" on that > > > permit... So you see it is NOT equal rights... they have them in at > least > > > ten states... > > > > > On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 11:20 PM, plainolamerican < > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> Even I don't have that right... > > >> --- > > >> yes you do ... all you have to do is buy a permit > > > > >> If i choose to buy a permit the very same rules apply to me and the > > >> Gay guy... and they apply > > >> equally. > > >> --- > > >> no they don't as gays aren't 'allowed' to get married. > > > > >> it's the religious who persecute homosexuals. > > > > >> again, I don't have a dog in this fight but I do recognize persecution > > >> when I see it. > > > > >> our sexual preferences are ours ... not to be impeded by the state or > > >> the religious. > > > > >> On Jun 20, 3:41 pm, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > to get married ... for starters > > > > >> > Even I don't have that right... I have to buy a permit. If i choose > to > > >> buy > > >> > a permit the very same rules apply to me and the Gay guy... and they > > >> apply > > >> > equally. > > > > >> > Try again. > > > > >> > On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 1:59 PM, plainolamerican > > >> > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > >> > > EXACTLY what "right" don't they have that I do ?? > > >> > > --- > > >> > > to get married ... for starters > > > > >> > > On Jun 20, 2:42 pm, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > > they want the same rights ... not more rights > > > > >> > > > EXACTLY what "right" don't they have that I do ?? This is one > > >> question no > > >> > > > one on the pro Gay side has ever been able to answer... > > > > >> > > > On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 12:45 PM, plainolamerican < > > >> > > [email protected] > > > > >> > > > > wrote: > > >> > > > > If you think that I am some type of Bible thumping zealot, > you are > > >> > > > > very > > >> > > > > much mistaken. > > >> > > > > --- > > >> > > > > did I imply that you are? > > > > >> > > > > I find it somewhat humorous, but mostly disturbing that folks > > >> like you > > >> > > > > get > > >> > > > > your drawers all up in a wad over Christians, > > >> > > > > --- > > >> > > > > accusation noted and completely false > > > > >> > > > > and that we are pretty much > > >> > > > > the majority in this Nation. We don't make a big fuss about > > >> much; we > > >> > > > > don't have a lot of demands.....The far left mock us; the > > >> secularists > > >> > > > > like > > >> > > > > yourself want to see us wiped from the history books; and > yet, we > > >> > > > > continue > > >> > > > > to "Continue On", keeping a low profile, and having, "Faith". > > >> > > > > --- > > >> > > > > you are more than welcome to keep your faith > > > > >> > > > > I have no objections to, or any problems with homosexuals, and > > >> > > > > whatever it > > >> > > > > is that they do. > > >> > > > > --- > > >> > > > > so, you don't believe that homosexuality is sinful like most > other > > >> > > > > christians, jews, and muzzies? > > > > >> > > > > It might be a wonderful thing for all I know, and their > > >> > > > > lifestyle(s) might truly be "Da Big Big Party"; again, I > don't > > >> > > > > know. I > > >> > > > > do know that when ANY group or organization starts clamoring > for > > >> more > > >> > > > > rights and privileges than you or I have, because of their > > >> behavior; > > >> > > > > just > > >> > > > > like when I smell horse hockey, I usually say as much. > > >> > > > > --- > > >> > > > > they want the same rights ... not more rights > > > > >> > > > > On Jun 20, 10:19 am, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> > > >> wrote: > > >> > > > > > Plain Ol, > > > > >> > > > > > If you think that I am some type of Bible thumping zealot, > you > > >> are > > >> > > very > > >> > > > > > much mistaken. I am a Christian, and have not a problem > > >> admitting > > >> > > to > > >> > > > > > that, or being ashamed of my, "Faith", (and I emphasize > that > > >> > > "Faith" is > > >> > > > > > the operative word there). I'm not, "Fishing For Men"; I'm > > >> not out > > >> > > on > > >> > > > > the > > >> > > > > > street corner handing out leaflets, nor do I go to folks > houses > > >> on > > >> > > > > Saturday > > >> > > > > > mornings trying to get them to hear, "The Word". > > > > >> > > > > > I find it somewhat humorous, but mostly disturbing that > folks > > >> like > > >> > > you > > >> > > > > get > > >> > > > > > your drawers all up in a wad over Christians, and that we > are > > >> pretty > > >> > > much > > >> > > > > > the majority in this Nation. We don't make a big fuss about > > >> much; > > >> > > we > > >> > > > > > don't have a lot of demands.....The far left mock us; the > > >> > > secularists > > >> > > > > like > > >> > > > > > yourself want to see us wiped from the history books; and > yet, > > >> we > > >> > > > > continue > > >> > > > > > to "Continue On", keeping a low profile, and having, > "Faith". > > > > >> > > > > > I have no objections to, or any problems with homosexuals, > and > > >> > > whatever > > >> > > > > it > > >> > > > > > is that they do. It might be a wonderful thing for all I > know, > > >> and > > >> > > their > > >> > > > > > lifestyle(s) might truly be "Da Big Big Party"; again, I > don't > > >> > > know. I > > >> > > > > > do know that when ANY group or organization starts clamoring > > >> for more > > >> > > > > > rights and privileges than you or I have, because of their > > >> behavior; > > >> > > > > just > > >> > > > > > like when I smell horse hockey, I usually say as much. > > > > >> > > > > > On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 4:46 PM, plainolamerican > > >> > > > > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > > It's just a matter of time before the lid blows off of > this > > >> whole > > >> > > > > > > fraud. > > >> > > > > > > --- > > >> > > > > > > you're right ... the religious in the military need to be > > >> muzzled > > >> > > like > > >> > > > > > > rabid dogs. > > > > >> > > > > > > the military is going to say enough > > >> > > > > > > --- > > >> > > > > > > and American will tell them to stfu or get out. > > > > >> > > > > > > DADT is the best that the religious in the military can > hope > > >> for. > > > > >> > > > > > > On Jun 20, 1:50 am, Keith In Tampa < > [email protected]> > > >> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > It's just a matter of time before the lid blows off of > this > > >> whole > > >> > > > > > > > fraud. The first Gay Pride parade, where folks are > parading > > >> > > around > > >> > > > > with > > >> > > > > > > > their uniforms all "gussied" up, and/or there will be > > >> some "Gay > > >> > > > > Drama" > > >> > > > > > > > from the likes of someone like Lil'TommyTomTomForNews, > > >> shit will > > >> > > > > > > literally > > >> > > > > > > > hit the fan, and the military is going to say enough. > > > > >> > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 9:20 PM, plainolamerican > > >> > > > > > > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > > > > only DADT stopped the enforcement of these policies. > > >> > > > > > > > > --- > > >> > > > > > > > > as it should > > > > >> > > > > > > > > The tide > > >> > > > > > > > > will soon turn and the complaints will start. > > >> > > > > > > > > ---- > > >> > > > > > > > > warmongers are hardly concerned about gay rights > > > > >> > > > > > > > > On Jun 19, 2:11 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE < > > >> [email protected]> > > >> > > > > wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > > > Actually, Plainol... all the draconian laws that > > >> persecuted > > >> > > and > > >> > > > > > > > > > prosecuted Gays before DADT was put in place are now > > >> back on > > >> > > the > > >> > > > > > > > > > books... only DADT stopped the enforcement of these > > >> > > policies. The > > >> > > > > > > tide > > >> > > > > > > > > > will soon turn and the complaints will start. > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > On Jun 19, 9:05 am, plainolamerican < > > >> > > [email protected]> > > >> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > the US military, unlike the religious, does not > > >> persecute > > >> > > > > > > homosexuals. > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > the grip that xians once had on America is gone > ... > > >> free at > > >> > > > > last! > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 19, 10:02 am, Travis <[email protected]> > > >> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Will they be celebrating "Ramitdown" next? > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > New post on *ACGR's "News with > Attitude"* > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > <http://a4cgr.wordpress.com/author/amcogore/> > The > > >> > > Many, The > > >> > > > > > > Gay, > > >> > > > > > > > > The New > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Marines to Celebrate Gay Pride > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Month< > http://a4cgr.wordpress.com/2012/06/19/05-972/ > > >> >by > > > > ... > > > > read more ยป > > -- > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ > * It's active and moderated. 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