This is great news! Do you have any suggestions on how to remove the interventionists from our government? Can you identify them?
Other than to protect the Straights of Hormuz for the shipment of oil to Europa --- and why do we owe Europe oil delivery protection? On Jun 18, 11:55 am, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > Believe it or not, I am coming around to believing that we have absolutely > no business anywhere in the Middle East anymore. Other than to protect the > Straights of Hormuz for the shipment of oil to Europa, we should have no > other interests there. We need to develop our own natural resources, and > get the Hell out of there. > > On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 12:49 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected] > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > Obama wants to arm al-Qaeda > > --- > > O is just another interventionist president willing to sacrifice > > American interests for the US war machine. > > Maybe his children will be forced into servitude. > > > On Jun 18, 6:51 am, Travis <[email protected]> wrote: > > >http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/17/us-syria-crisis-idUSBRE95C1... > > > **** > > > > ** ** > > > Putin says West arming Syrian rebels who eat human flesh**** > > > > **· **Tweet <http://twitter.com/share>**** > > > > By Khaled Yacoub Oweis and Alexei Anishchuk**** > > > > AMMAN/LONDON | Mon Jun 17, 2013 6:20am EDT**** > > > > AMMAN/LONDON (Reuters) - Russian President Vladimir Putin, arriving in > > > Britain ahead of an international summit set to be dominated by > > > disagreement over the U.S. decision to send weapons to Syria's rebels, > > said > > > the West must not arm fighters who eat human flesh.**** > > > > In Syria <http://www.reuters.com/places/syria>, rebels fought back on > > > Sunday against forces of President Bashar al-Assad and his Lebanese > > > Hezbollah allies near Aleppo, where Assad has announced a campaign to > > > recapture the rebel-held north after seizing a strategic town this > > month.*** > > > * > > > > After months of deliberations, Washington decided last week to send > > weapons > > > to the rebels, declaring that Assad's forces had crossed a "red line" by > > > using nerve gas.**** > > > > The move throws the superpower's weight behind the revolt and signals a > > > potential turning point in global involvement in a two-year-old war that > > > has already killed at least 93,000 people.**** > > > > It has also infuriated Russia <http://www.reuters.com/places/russia>, > > Cold > > > War-era ally of Syria, which has sold arms to Assad and used its veto at > > > the U.N. Security Council to block resolutions against him.**** > > > > Russia has dismissed the U.S. evidence that Assad's forces used nerve > > gas. > > > The White House says President Barack Obama will try to lobby Putin to > > drop > > > his support for Assad during this week's G8 summit hosted by British > > Prime > > > Minister David Cameron.**** > > > > After meeting Cameron in London, Putin said Russia wanted to create the > > > conditions for a resolution of the conflict.**** > > > > "One does not really need to support the people who not only kill their > > > enemies, but open up their bodies, eat their intestines in front of the > > > public and cameras," Putin said.**** > > > > "Are these the people you want to support? Are they the ones you want to > > > supply with weapons? Then this probably has little relation to the > > > humanitarian values preached in Europe for hundreds of years."**** > > > > The incident Putin referred to was most likely that of a rebel commander > > > filmed last month cutting into the torso of a dead soldier and biting > > into > > > a piece of one of his organs.**** > > > > Both sides have been accused of atrocities in the conflict. The United > > > States and other countries that aid the rebels say one of the reasons for > > > doing so is to support mainstream opposition groups and reduce the > > > influence of extremists.**** > > > > DOUBTS OVER CONFERENCE**** > > > > The U.S. plan to arm the rebels also places new doubt over plans for an > > > international peace conference called by Washington and Moscow, their > > first > > > joint attempt in a year to try to seek a settlement.**** > > > > After meeting Putin, Britain's Cameron said the divide between Russia and > > > the West over Syria could be bridged, although they disagreed about who > > was > > > at fault.**** > > > > "What I take from our conversation today is that we can overcome these > > > differences if we recognize that we share some fundamental aims: to end > > the > > > conflict, to stop Syria breaking apart, to let the Syrian people decide > > who > > > governs them and to take the fight to the extremists and defeat > > them."**** > > > > Britain has not said whether it too will arm the rebels, but the issue is > > > contentious even within Cameron's Conservative-led government. Nick > > Clegg, > > > the deputy prime minister from his Liberal Democrat coalition partners, > > > said: "We clearly don't think it's the right thing to do now, or else we > > > would have done it."**** > > > > Under its new posture, Washington has also said it will keep warplanes > > and > > > Patriot surface-to-air missiles in Jordan, an ally whose territory it can > > > use to help arm and train rebel fighters. Washington has 4,500 troops in > > > Jordan carrying out exercises.**** > > > > Washington has not ruled out imposing a no-fly zone over parts of Syria, > > > perhaps near the Jordanian border, although it has taken no decision yet > > to > > > do so.**** > > > > Jordan's King Abdullah rallied his own armed forces on Sunday, telling > > > military cadets: "If the world does not help as it should, and if the > > > matter becomes a danger to our country, we are able at any moment to take > > > the measures to protect the country and the interests of our people."**** > > > > Washington hopes its backing will restore rebel momentum after Assad's > > > forces seized the initiative by gaining the open support of Hezbollah, > > > Lebanon's Iranian-backed Shi'ite militia, which sent thousands of > > seasoned > > > fighters to aid Assad.**** > > > > Just a few months ago, Western countries believed Assad's days were > > > numbered. But with Hezbollah's support he was able to achieve a major > > > victory this month in Qusair, a strategically located rebel-held town on > > a > > > main route from Lebanon.**** > > > > FIGHT FOR ALEPPO**** > > > > Since then, the government has announced major plans to seize the north, > > > including Aleppo, Syria's biggest city and commercial centre, largely > > > rebel-held for nearly a year. The United Nations says it fears for a > > > bloodbath in the north.**** > > > > Rebels say they are fighting back against government offensives in the > > > north. An opposition operations room in northern Aleppo said fighters had > > > destroyed an army tank and killed 20 troops at Marat al-Arteek, a town > > > where opposition sources say rebels are holding back an armored column > > sent > > > to reinforce loyalists from isolated Shi'ite villages.**** > > > > "Assad's forces and Hezbollah are trying to control northern rural Aleppo > > > but they are being repelled and dealt heavy losses," Colonel Abdeljabbar > > > al-Okeidi, a Free Syrian Army commander in Aleppo, told al-Arabiya > > > Television.**** > > > > He said Hezbollah had sent up to 2,000 fighters to Aleppo and the > > > surrounding areas, but expressed confidence the opposition would > > prevail.*** > > > * > > > > "Aleppo and Qusair are different. In Qusair we were surrounded by > > villages > > > that had been occupied by Hezbollah and by loyalist areas. We did not > > even > > > have a place to take our wounded. In Aleppo, we have a strategic depth > > and > > > logistical support and we are better organized," he said. "Aleppo will > > turn > > > into the grave of these Hezbollah devils."**** > > > > Battles were also fought inside Aleppo itself, where thousands of > > loyalist > > > troops and militiamen reinforced by Hezbollah have been massing and > > > attacking opposition-held parts of the city, driving rebel fighters > > back.*** > > > * > > > > Opposition activists said the army was also airlifting troops behind > > rebel > > > lines to Ifrin, in a Kurdish area, which would give access for a bigger > > > sweep inside the city.**** > > > > "For a week, the rebel forces have been generally on the retreat in > > Aleppo, > > > but the tide has started turning in the last two days," said Abu > > Abdallah, > > > an activist in the area.**** > > > > Hezbollah's support for Assad, a follower of the minority Alawite > > offshoot > > > of Shi'ite Islam, against mainly Sunni Muslim rebels has increased fears > > of > > > sectarian violence spreading into neighboring countries.**** > > > > In Lebanon, security sources said gunmen had shot dead four Shi'ite > > Muslim > > > men in an ambush in the Bekaa Valley close to the Syrian frontier. It was > > > not clear who was behind the shooting.**** > > > > Lebanon is still rebuilding from its own sectarian civil war, fought from > > > 1975-1990. Fighting between Sunnis and Shi'ites was also behind most of > > the > > > violence in Iraq in the decade after the U.S. invasion of 2003.**** > > > > ** ** > > > > __._,_.__ > > > > __,_._,___ > > > -- > > -- > > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > > For options & help seehttp://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > > * Visit our other community athttp://www.PoliticalForum.com/ > > * It's active and moderated. 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