Simple solution is the irradication of islamoshit and islamoshitters. On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 12:57 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
> ** > I too am coming to the same conclusion as Keith. Crazy in Syria.....we can > not win.....one side has Assad and the other side Hezbollah and al-Qaeda. > Damned if you do damned if you don't..... so lets declare victory and get > the hell out and seal up the area and let them continue their primative > tribal warfare with modern weapons that we do not give them! They have not > been out of their tents long enough to live in peace ....side by side with > others. > In a message dated 6/18/2013 9:55:26 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > Believe it or not, I am coming around to believing that we have > absolutely no business anywhere in the Middle East anymore. Other than to > protect the Straights of Hormuz for the shipment of oil to Europa, we > should have no other interests there. We need to develop our own natural > resources, and get the Hell out of there. > > > > On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 12:49 PM, plainolamerican < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Obama wants to arm al-Qaeda >> --- >> O is just another interventionist president willing to sacrifice >> American interests for the US war machine. >> Maybe his children will be forced into servitude. >> >> On Jun 18, 6:51 am, Travis <[email protected]> wrote: >> > http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/17/us-syria-crisis-idUSBRE95C1. >> .. >> > **** >> > >> > ** ** >> > Putin says West arming Syrian rebels who eat human flesh**** >> > >> > **ยท **Tweet <http://twitter.com/share>**** >> > >> > By Khaled Yacoub Oweis and Alexei Anishchuk**** >> > >> > AMMAN/LONDON | Mon Jun 17, 2013 6:20am EDT**** >> > >> > AMMAN/LONDON (Reuters) - Russian President Vladimir Putin, arriving in >> > Britain ahead of an international summit set to be dominated by >> > disagreement over the U.S. decision to send weapons to Syria's rebels, >> said >> > the West must not arm fighters who eat human flesh.**** >> > >> > In Syria <http://www.reuters.com/places/syria>, rebels fought back on >> > Sunday against forces of President Bashar al-Assad and his Lebanese >> > Hezbollah allies near Aleppo, where Assad has announced a campaign to >> > recapture the rebel-held north after seizing a strategic town this >> month.*** >> > * >> > >> > After months of deliberations, Washington decided last week to send >> weapons >> > to the rebels, declaring that Assad's forces had crossed a "red line" by >> > using nerve gas.**** >> > >> > The move throws the superpower's weight behind the revolt and signals a >> > potential turning point in global involvement in a two-year-old war that >> > has already killed at least 93,000 people.**** >> > >> > It has also infuriated Russia <http://www.reuters.com/places/russia>, >> Cold >> > War-era ally of Syria, which has sold arms to Assad and used its veto at >> > the U.N. Security Council to block resolutions against him.**** >> > >> > Russia has dismissed the U.S. evidence that Assad's forces used nerve >> gas. >> > The White House says President Barack Obama will try to lobby Putin to >> drop >> > his support for Assad during this week's G8 summit hosted by British >> Prime >> > Minister David Cameron.**** >> > >> > After meeting Cameron in London, Putin said Russia wanted to create the >> > conditions for a resolution of the conflict.**** >> > >> > "One does not really need to support the people who not only kill their >> > enemies, but open up their bodies, eat their intestines in front of the >> > public and cameras," Putin said.**** >> > >> > "Are these the people you want to support? Are they the ones you want to >> > supply with weapons? Then this probably has little relation to the >> > humanitarian values preached in Europe for hundreds of years."**** >> > >> > The incident Putin referred to was most likely that of a rebel commander >> > filmed last month cutting into the torso of a dead soldier and biting >> into >> > a piece of one of his organs.**** >> > >> > Both sides have been accused of atrocities in the conflict. The United >> > States and other countries that aid the rebels say one of the reasons >> for >> > doing so is to support mainstream opposition groups and reduce the >> > influence of extremists.**** >> > >> > DOUBTS OVER CONFERENCE**** >> > >> > The U.S. plan to arm the rebels also places new doubt over plans for an >> > international peace conference called by Washington and Moscow, their >> first >> > joint attempt in a year to try to seek a settlement.**** >> > >> > After meeting Putin, Britain's Cameron said the divide between Russia >> and >> > the West over Syria could be bridged, although they disagreed about who >> was >> > at fault.**** >> > >> > "What I take from our conversation today is that we can overcome these >> > differences if we recognize that we share some fundamental aims: to end >> the >> > conflict, to stop Syria breaking apart, to let the Syrian people decide >> who >> > governs them and to take the fight to the extremists and defeat >> them."**** >> > >> > Britain has not said whether it too will arm the rebels, but the issue >> is >> > contentious even within Cameron's Conservative-led government. Nick >> Clegg, >> > the deputy prime minister from his Liberal Democrat coalition partners, >> > said: "We clearly don't think it's the right thing to do now, or else we >> > would have done it."**** >> > >> > Under its new posture, Washington has also said it will keep warplanes >> and >> > Patriot surface-to-air missiles in Jordan, an ally whose territory it >> can >> > use to help arm and train rebel fighters. Washington has 4,500 troops in >> > Jordan carrying out exercises.**** >> > >> > Washington has not ruled out imposing a no-fly zone over parts of Syria, >> > perhaps near the Jordanian border, although it has taken no decision >> yet to >> > do so.**** >> > >> > Jordan's King Abdullah rallied his own armed forces on Sunday, telling >> > military cadets: "If the world does not help as it should, and if the >> > matter becomes a danger to our country, we are able at any moment to >> take >> > the measures to protect the country and the interests of our >> people."**** >> > >> > Washington hopes its backing will restore rebel momentum after Assad's >> > forces seized the initiative by gaining the open support of Hezbollah, >> > Lebanon's Iranian-backed Shi'ite militia, which sent thousands of >> seasoned >> > fighters to aid Assad.**** >> > >> > Just a few months ago, Western countries believed Assad's days were >> > numbered. But with Hezbollah's support he was able to achieve a major >> > victory this month in Qusair, a strategically located rebel-held town >> on a >> > main route from Lebanon.**** >> > >> > FIGHT FOR ALEPPO**** >> > >> > Since then, the government has announced major plans to seize the north, >> > including Aleppo, Syria's biggest city and commercial centre, largely >> > rebel-held for nearly a year. The United Nations says it fears for a >> > bloodbath in the north.**** >> > >> > Rebels say they are fighting back against government offensives in the >> > north. An opposition operations room in northern Aleppo said fighters >> had >> > destroyed an army tank and killed 20 troops at Marat al-Arteek, a town >> > where opposition sources say rebels are holding back an armored column >> sent >> > to reinforce loyalists from isolated Shi'ite villages.**** >> > >> > "Assad's forces and Hezbollah are trying to control northern rural >> Aleppo >> > but they are being repelled and dealt heavy losses," Colonel Abdeljabbar >> > al-Okeidi, a Free Syrian Army commander in Aleppo, told al-Arabiya >> > Television.**** >> > >> > He said Hezbollah had sent up to 2,000 fighters to Aleppo and the >> > surrounding areas, but expressed confidence the opposition would >> prevail.*** >> > * >> > >> > "Aleppo and Qusair are different. In Qusair we were surrounded by >> villages >> > that had been occupied by Hezbollah and by loyalist areas. We did not >> even >> > have a place to take our wounded. In Aleppo, we have a strategic depth >> and >> > logistical support and we are better organized," he said. "Aleppo will >> turn >> > into the grave of these Hezbollah devils."**** >> > >> > Battles were also fought inside Aleppo itself, where thousands of >> loyalist >> > troops and militiamen reinforced by Hezbollah have been massing and >> > attacking opposition-held parts of the city, driving rebel fighters >> back.*** >> > * >> > >> > Opposition activists said the army was also airlifting troops behind >> rebel >> > lines to Ifrin, in a Kurdish area, which would give access for a bigger >> > sweep inside the city.**** >> > >> > "For a week, the rebel forces have been generally on the retreat in >> Aleppo, >> > but the tide has started turning in the last two days," said Abu >> Abdallah, >> > an activist in the area.**** >> > >> > Hezbollah's support for Assad, a follower of the minority Alawite >> offshoot >> > of Shi'ite Islam, against mainly Sunni Muslim rebels has increased >> fears of >> > sectarian violence spreading into neighboring countries.**** >> > >> > In Lebanon, security sources said gunmen had shot dead four Shi'ite >> Muslim >> > men in an ambush in the Bekaa Valley close to the Syrian frontier. It >> was >> > not clear who was behind the shooting.**** >> > >> > Lebanon is still rebuilding from its own sectarian civil war, fought >> from >> > 1975-1990. Fighting between Sunnis and Shi'ites was also behind most of >> the >> > violence in Iraq in the decade after the U.S. invasion of 2003.**** >> > >> > ** ** >> > >> > __._,_.__ >> > >> > __,_._,___ >> >> -- >> -- >> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >> For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >> >> * Visit our other community at >> http://www.PoliticalForum.com/<http://www.politicalforum.com/> >> * It's active and moderated. 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