On Mar 18, 2014, at 2:28 PM, Mouse <[email protected]> wrote:

>> When at least those measures were taken, the wide availability of
>> unfiltered access to hackers (botnets, cheap hosting) would be
>> reduced.
> 
> Sure, but they aren't the problem; it's the crackers and the skr1pt
> k1ddiez 

Right, so if we replace the word hackers with something like "adversaries" in 
our minds, then we're all in agreement?

Rusty D. 


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