----- Originálna Správa -----
Od: Noel Jones  
Komu: Meno  
Poslaná: 16.01.2009 18:10 
Predmet: Re: MAIL FROM confusion

> Meno wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > Does somebody know what may cause a confusion like this?
> > 
> > In maillog you can see, that the sender is 
> > \\\"from=msmith(at)acutecprecision(dot)com\\\" (see below)
> > 
> > r...@smtp3 # cat /var/log/mail-smtp3-090115.log | grep 55BB716282
> > Jan 15 04:43:25 smtp3 postfix/smtpd[17488]: [ID 197553 mail.info] 
> > 55BB716282: client=localhost[127.0.0.1]
> > Jan 15 04:43:25 smtp3 postfix/cleanup[15371]: [ID 197553 mail.info] 
> > 55BB716282: messageid 
> > Jan 15 04:43:25 smtp3 postfix/qmgr[1372]: [ID 197553 mail.info]5BB716282: 
> > from=msmith(at)acutecprecision(dot)com,size=2407, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
> > Jan 15 04:43:25 smtp3 postfix/smtp[16197]: [ID 197553 mail.info] 
> > 55BB716282:to=jlopatka(at)notes(dot)mydomain(dot)com,orig_to=jlopatka(at)mydomain(dot)com,relay=notes.mydomain.com[10.10.10.174]:25,delay=0.21,
> >  delays=0.19/0/0.01/0.01, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 Message accepted for 
> > delivery)
> > Jan 15 04:43:25 smtp3 postfix/qmgr[1372]: [ID 197553 mail.info] 55BB716282: 
> > removed 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > But when I get this mail to my inbox, the souce of this mail looks like 
> > this:
> > The sender is \\\"from=jlopatka(at)mydomain(dot)com\\\" which is my email 
> > address.
> > Based on these source code, the email client assumes thet it was sent by me,
> > which is not true. It was received from \\\"unknown [211.203.243.81]\\\"
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Received: from smtp3.example.com ([211.51.20.89])
> >          by smtp1.example.com (Lotus Domino Release 7.0.3FP1)
> >          with ESMTP id 2009011504432553-28468 ;
> >          Thu, 15 Jan 2009 04:43:25 +0100
> > Received: from smtp2.example.com (localhost [127.0.0.1])
> >                 by smtp3.example.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55BB716282
> >                 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 2009 04:43:25 +0100 (MET)
> > X-Received-SPF: no SPF record found
> > Received: from 3com.com (unknown [211.203.243.81])by smtp2.example.com
> >                 (Postfix) with SMTP id 536831631for ; Thu, 15 Jan
> >                 2009 04:43:22 +0100 (CET)
> > To: jlopatka(at)mydomain(dot)com
> > Subject: RE: message 62625
> > From: jlopatka(at)mydomain(dot)com
> > MIME-Version: 1.0
> > Importance: High
> > Message-Id: 
> > Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 04:43:22 +0100 (CET)
> > 
> > 
> > Does somebody know how to stop getting such mail?
> > Either SPF cannot help me!
> > 
> > Thankx, 
> > Chris
> > 
> 
> The From: and To: in your logs and headers apparently got 
> eaten somewhere, so I can\'t see what you\'re referring to.
> 
> If you are getting mail claiming to be from your own domain, 
> this has been discussed on the list several times recently. 
> Check the archives.
> 
> This particular client is listed in multiple RBLs, you could 
> reject it and lots of other spam with \"reject_rbl_client 
> zen.spamhaus.org\".  Check the www.spamhaus.org web site for 
> usage restrictions.
> 
> The client also has no rDNS hostname, you could reject such 
> clients with \"reject_unknown_reverse_client_hostname\".  This 
> restriction might reject legit mail, so watch your logs.
> 
> The client used the HELO hostname \"3com.com\", which is bogus.
> You could reject this HELO hostname with a check_helo_access 
> map, but this would be less generally useful than the above 
> two checks.  See the archive for examples.
> 
> Your system should already reject unknown recipients for your 
> own domain.  You can reject mail using nonexistent local 
> sender addresses by setting in main.cf:
> smtpd_reject_unlisted_sender = yes
> 
> -- 
> Noel Jones
> 

Thank you Noel for quick answer,

I do not know why these from: and to: addresses
has disappeared...maybe my provider is blocking 
email add. in outgoing mails. hm!?
I will try to use another convention - user(at)domain(dot)com
I hope it will go through :)

> If you are getting mail claiming to be from your own domain, 
> this has been discussed on the list several times recently. 
> Check the archives.

You are right, but I think this is a special case, because
in my maillog, postfix assumes, that the sender is 
smith(at)acutecprecision(dot)com - it goes through the SPF
check - but when I get it to my mailbox the from: address
is my e-mail address : jlopatka(at)mydomain(dot)com
and only in SMTPOriginator header information can find
the smith(at)acutecprecision(dot)com

I am curious how the attacker can confuse the address?

Thanks,
Chris






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