Wietse Venema wrote on 2010-03-29:

> Matthias Andree:
>> and timezone are wrong, timezone name is missing). Interestingly, the  
>> time
>> logged in Received: is correct. I would have hoped that the Date: header
>> produces the same timestamp as in the Received: header.
> ...
>> Return-Path: <>
>> X-Original-To: ma+direct
>> Delivered-To: ma+dir...@example.org
>> Received: from x (localhost [127.0.0.1])
>>            by mail.example.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3F59481E3
>>            for <ma+direct>; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 16:38:10 +0200 (CEST)
>> Subject: yet another Postfix test
>> Message-Id: <20100329143810.a3f5948...@mail.example.org>
>> Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 16:38:10 +0200 (CEST)
>> From: MAILER-DAEMON
>> To: undisclosed-recipients:;
>
> In the above message:
>
>     Received header date = Mon, 29 Mar 2010 16:38:10 +0200 (CEST)
>     Date header date =     Mon, 29 Mar 2010 16:38:10 +0200 (CEST)
>
> These time stamps are identical, and all headers have the form that
> I would expect from Postfix.

Thank you.  It matches what I'd read in the source (the strftime format string).

> This has a NON-POSTFIX Message-ID: header, and a Date: header
> without time zone.

That's ok, and wasn't what I'd tested.

Now that's embarrassing, for me (not noticing the discrepancy between mailer's
display and Maildir contents), and for the Opera guys (for goofing up the time
zone).

Here's the story:  I was looking at what Opera 10.51's mail client was
presenting me in "all headers and body" view (whatever the exact name is,  I'm
using a localized version).

Original:

Return-Path: <>
X-Original-To: ma+direct
Delivered-To: ma+dir...@example.org
Received: from x (localhost [127.0.0.1])
         by mail.example.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E753548DA6
         for <ma+direct>; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 19:19:04 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: yet another Postfix test
Message-Id: <20100329171904.e753548...@mail.example.org>
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 19:19:04 +0200 (CEST)
From: MAILER-DAEMON
To: undisclosed-recipients:;


Opera representation (Note Return-path misspelling, b0rked Date timezone, and
omitted To - it's not in the headline either):

Return-path: <>
X-Original-To: ma+direct
Delivered-To: ma+dir...@example.org
Received: from x (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.example.org
  (Postfix) with ESMTP id E753548DA6 for <ma+direct>; Mon, 29 Mar 2010  19:19:04
  +0200 (CEST)
Subject: yet another Postfix test
Message-ID: <20100329171904.e753548...@mail.example.org>
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 20:19:04 +0300
From: MAILER-DAEMON


Looks like a one of the many Opera mail bugs. Filed as bug #291618 with Opera,
and that bug address in Bcc: so they know this is being discussed in public.
Sorry for the lack of displomacy, but you get to share the embarrassment 
anyways :)

Off-topic: Anyone know a Thunderbird add-in that auto-creates virtual folders
for mailing lists? It's the sole reason why I'm still using Opera M2.

-- 
Matthias Andree

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