Am 19.12.2011 01:46, schrieb Wietse Venema:
> Reindl Harald:
>>> Steve Fatula:
>>>> Have not seen a discussion of this lately, I'd like to hear pros
>>>> of disallowing said spoofing. It appears it's "allowed" in the
>>>> SMTP "standard". So, are there reasons to not allow it?
>>>
>>> You mean, forbid mailing list postings (like yours), because they
>>> arrive from outside, but have a sender address inside the network?
>>
>> sorry but they do not have!
>>
>> on some internal-relays maybe but this is not the place
>> where spoof-protection is a topic
>>
>> but on your mx-side they are coming from my address and the
>> received mails have an envelope @postfix.org
> 
> For most users, "spoofing" is about email with their address in the
> From: header, coming from an outside machine. The average email
> user has no idea what an envelope sender is.

agreed, but then we should explain him because this is the
address which is relevant in the smtp-protocol, but i think
i have not to explain mr. postfix smtp :-)

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