On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 07:49:49PM -0600, Al Zick wrote:
> On Jan 13, 2012, at 5:52 PM, /dev/rob0 wrote:
> >On Friday 13 January 2012 16:57:21 Al Zick wrote:
> >>On Jan 12, 2012, at 3:57 AM, Egoitz Aurrekoetxea Aurre wrote:
> >>>Apart from this if you use some trustable RBL, perhaps
> >------------------------------------^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >>>greylisting and you update Spamassassin rules regularly...
> >>>you should be pretty fine..
> >>
> >>I am not using spamassassin, or greylisting, and I just removed
> >>the RBL's because of waaaaaay too many false positives.
> >
> >This is absurd. It surely means you chose some overly-aggressive (not
> >trustable) DNSBLs. To say that all DNSBLs cause loss of mail is
> >ridiculous. Why didn't you even consider it worth mentioning what
> >lists you were using
> 
> I am not trying to start a flame war with anyone. Obviously you
> understand what effective spam filtering should look like.

I do not consider it a flame, but I was annoyed at the implied point 
of your post, "if you use DNSBLs, you are blocking real mail." That 
is simply not so.

> Here is where I am at: I had about 10 of RBLs at one time (including
> some of the ones you mentioned), but I slowly removed them. What do
> you do when people that you need to be in contact with everyday are
> being blocked? I guess that you can use them if you don't mind having
> an ever growing whitelist. Can they they be weighted somehow?

I do not whitelist in general. I have in the past, but not at this 
time. I do use DNSWL.org whitelisting, but I do not think it makes 
any difference in what gets through. (I have not searched recently, 
but in the past I have found that nothing in DNSWL.org was also in 
Zen or BRBL.)

As mentioned in part of my message that was trimmed from the quotes, 
I'm using postscreen, which does indeed have a scoring system. But 
either Zen or BRBL alone is enough evidence that it's spam.

Perhaps you need to focus on the ACTUAL problem. What non-spam were 
you blocking? Bring those up here on the list, including logs of it 
being blocked, and we can find a solution.
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