On Mar 14, 2012, at 19:39, Ed W wrote:

> On 13/03/2012 23:50, Wietse Venema wrote:
>> #submission inet n       -       n       -       -       smtpd
>> #  -o syslog_name=postfix/submission
>> #  -o smtpd_tls_security_level=encrypt
> 
> I forget the exact details now, but one mail client, I think it might be an 
> Android or iPhone mail client(?) defaults to using the submission service but 
> without encryption.  The error messages were confusing and unhelpful to the 
> customer and I just recall it took some time to realise that it was the 
> enforced tls requirement that was the problem
> 
> I see no reason to *require* encryption on the submission port (RFC aside).  
> I think "may" is a more appropriate default?

I don't know about Android, but we have not seen any issues with the 
iPhone/iPad. Works fine with TLS 'encrypt' in our setups, as suggested above.

Cya,
Jona

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