Am 13.04.2013 22:36, schrieb b...@bitrate.net:
>> fine - in the real life you start not from scratch
> 
> in the real world, both [and more] things happen.

and "another" in the subject is a clear sign

>> have fun calling hundrets and thousands of users especially with broken
>> clients like a iPhone and explain them what to do to change the port
> 
> perhaps, perhaps not.
> 
>> in a perfect world i would even close port 25 from the WAN because
>> the MX is a dedicated spam-firewall, but as said above this world
>> exists mostly only if you are a startup with no existing customers
> 
> huh?

you forgot you mendtioned remove SASL from port 25?

>>> i really just discourage use of permit_mynetworks altogether
>>
>> if you are not stupid enough to add a /24 network there it is pretty fine
>> you do not want to pass every internal server sending a system-message to
>> check_recipient_access which may be a spam-filter
> 
> sorry, i have no idea what you're talking about

that your "discourage use of permit_mynetworks" is far from reality as
also "do not use SASAL and submission on port 25" as well if someone
asks for ANOTHER sanity check after upgrade to a new version?

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