Hi Viktor,

Am 07.11.2014 um 15:39 schrieb Viktor Dukhovni:
> On Fri, Nov 07, 2014 at 02:04:27PM +0100, Bernhard Schmidt wrote:
> 
>> However, sometimes mx2.bund.de negotiates an Anonymous TLS connection
>> and the mail gets delivered
>>
>> Nov  7 11:04:39 lxmhs52 postfix-postout/smtp[18391]: Anonymous TLS
>> connection established to mx2.bund.de[77.87.224.131]:25: TLSv1.2 with
>> cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)
>> Nov  7 11:04:39 lxmhs52 postfix-postout/smtp[18391]: 3jYxzC541LzyYf:
>> to=<[email protected]>, relay=mx2.bund.de[77.87.224.131]:25, delay=0.32,
>> delays=0.05/0/0.16/0.11, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 2.0.0 Ok: queued as
>> E353315D45B)
> 
> Pay close attention to the recipient domain.  While bund.de is DNSSEC
> signed, ble.de is not.
> 
>> - Why are Untrusted TLS connections dropped, but the arguably even
>> weaker Anonymous TLS connections accepted?
> 
> DANE does not apply to unsigned domains, even though the MX host
> might have TLSA RRs.

Ah right, thanks for pointing that out. Should I be concerned that
sometimes anonymous TLS is chosen?

Bernhard

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