Am 28. September 2016 10:25:42 MESZ, schrieb li...@lazygranch.com:
>I don't want take this thread off course, but suggestions for low cost
>certs would be appreciated. I don't like how Let's Encrypt works, else
>that would be the obvious solution. 
I get mine through https://www.ssls.com

>Domain registration isn't free. Server time isn't free. Something like
>$20 a year would be fine. I already have a self signed cert for email,
>but would like to eventually encrypt my websites and attempt
>dnssec/dane.
>
>When Symantec first announced that they would compete with Let's
>Encrypt, I signed up with them. But it looks like their free cert
>program is more like you need to recruit customers for them.
>
>
>  Original Message  
>From: Sven Schwedas
>Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 1:10 AM
>To: postfix-users@postfix.org
>Subject: Re: WoSign/StartCom CA in the news
>
>On 2016-09-28 00:31, Giovanni Harting wrote:
>> Correct me if I'm wrong, but that document you describe issues by
>> Mozilla and others, doesn't it state that it would only affect new
>> issues certs after a certain date?
>
>Yes, but most StartSSL/WoSign certificates are only valid for a year or
>less. So customers should start looking for alternative providers
>*now*,
>because a year-long block will affect almost all of them.
>
>> Am 09/28/16 um 00:29 schrieb Viktor Dukhovni:
>>> WoSign (who seemingly purchased StartCom) seem to have run into
>>> some compliance issues as reported by Firefox:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>http://arstechnica.com/security/2016/09/firefox-ready-to-block-certificate-authority-that-threatened-web-security/
>>>
>>>
>>> Many SMTP servers are using certs from StartCom. In my DANE
>>> adoption survey, out of 2201 certificates used by DANE MX
>>> hosts 411 are issued by StartCom and 47 by WoSign. So that's
>>> just over 20% of observed certificates. While the rate is
>>> likely different for the larger SMTP ecosystem (DANE users
>>> are bleeding edge, not representative at this time), I expect
>>> that these CAs are still quite popular overall.
>>>
>>> If you're using StartCom/WoSign certs, and rely on them being
>>> verified by MUAs and/or peer MTAs. you may want to make
>>> contingency plans if Mozilla and perhaps others go through
>>> with delisting (or disabling) the related root CAs from
>>> their trusted CA bundles.
>>>
>> 

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