Hi Robert,

thanks. already saw that but i dont want to bother remote sites with a
'full verify'. still like the policy server approach. should be no big
thing for a coder - familiar with perl.

Am Samstag, 22. Dezember 2018 schrieb Robert Schetterer <r...@sys4.de>:
> Am 22.12.18 um 07:55 schrieb Stefan Bauer:
>>
>> nights later, a better approach seems to have a policy service that does
the tls pre-checking.
>
>
> long time ago i wrote this
>
> https://blog.sys4.de/recipient-verification-tls-mandatory-modus-en.html
>
> perhaps it helps
>
>>
>> Something like this already around? ( i'm no coder but want to sponsor
that if someone can do it) pm please
>>
>> Am Donnerstag, 20. Dezember 2018 schrieb Viktor Dukhovni <
postfix-us...@dukhovni.org <mailto:postfix-us...@dukhovni.org>>:
>>  >> On Dec 20, 2018, at 1:25 PM, Stefan Bauer <cubew...@googlemail.com
<mailto:cubew...@googlemail.com>> wrote:
>>  >>
>>  >> I'm aware of such exceptions but I don't like to set them.  Our
policy is safe or not at all via mail.
>>  >
>>  > That policy has a cost.  You don't like the cost, but there it is...
>>  >
>>  >> I would like to have a setting like do not try next mx,
>>  >> if first mx lacks tls support. it assumes that if tls is
>>  >> not avail on primary it will for sure also not be avail
>>  >> on second and third.
>>  >
>>  > Sorry, Postfix does not and will not do that.  Data-mine your logs
>>  > for deliveries that fall back to a dead MX host (connection failure
>>  > and a large "c" value (>= smtp_connect_timeout) in the
"delays=a/b/c/d"
>>  > part of the log entry, e.g.
>>  >
>>  >   delays=263861/0.01/60/0, dsn=4.4.1, status=deferred
>>  >     (connect to <guilty-party>: Operation timed out)
>>  >
>>  > Then, if you refuse to ever deliver in the clear, reject mail to
>>  > the domain.
>>  >
>>  >   transport:
>>  > example.com <http://example.com> error:5.1.2:Destination domain does
not support STARTTLS
>>  >
>>  > --
>>  > --
>>  >         Viktor.
>>  >
>
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