On Thu, 12 Sep 2019 at 10:24, Chris Wedgwood <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I have a postfix-3.2.6 system that acts as a mail server and
> > pop/imap using dovecot for a small domain. The problem is that
> > people are increasingly using it as a relay to a personal account,
> > such as Gmail and Yahoo.
>
> perhaps i misunderstand
>
> they are sending email from gmail/yahoo addresses from your MTA?  if
> so those will get blocked in many cases and marked as spam in many
> others
>
>
> for example with gmail:
>
>   _dmarc.gmail.com.       596     IN      TXT     "v=DMARC1; p=none; 
> sp=quarantine; rua=mailto:[email protected]";
>
>   gmail.com.              205     IN      TXT     "v=spf1 
> redirect=_spf.google.com"
>
>   _spf.google.com.        176     IN      TXT     "v=spf1 
> include:_netblocks.google.com include:_netblocks2.google.com 
> include:_netblocks3.google.com ~all"
>
> ...
>
> you MTA is not going to be included in any of those records, so you're
> MTA isn't a valid origin for @gmail.com and you're not going to be able to 
> sign messages with a valid (dkim)
> signature either. this is how spf/dmarc works


but note in the DMARC record that you quote: ' p=none': Gmail is
telling other servers *not* to block (or quarantine) emails from
@gmail.com that do not obey SPF or DKIM rules. Yahoo by contrast:

# dig +short _dmarc.yahoo.com TXT
"v=DMARC1; p=reject; pct=100; rua=mailto:[email protected];";

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