baddoc wrote:

>If I replace the CD ROM with one from a "real" Mac (an old 6400 that bit
>the dust) will I still need the PWB toolkit for service and for the
>drivers or will the PB 180 know that it is an original Mac drive?

Any CDROM from an Apple computer should be readily recognized by the Mac
OS, regardless of which clone is being used.
Third party support via the likes of FWB were necessary to allow use of
cdrom drives which were cheaper due their absense of ROM recognizing calls
from the Mac OS driver.

I remember reading once that the 'C' key command might not work in the case
of keyboards that were third party, another case of non-compliance with
certain standards set by Apple.

Back in the clone day, many users were willing to put up with, or didn't
have these minor issues due use of the startup cd which came with the
computer and carried all the necessary drivers.

As Apple dropped official support for clones around about OS8, and as many
of us are still using clones, albeit with much later versions of the MacOS,
it becomes necessary to fiddle fart around with the components to get
everything working smoothly.

One way to reduce the problems is to use components such as cdrom's and
hard drives from Apple products. The caveat here with PowerComputing goods
is that any of the computers based on PowerComputing's marvellous version
of the Mac 7200 'Catalyst' motherboard (PowerCurve/Center/CenterPro) do not
recognize Apple CPU's due the absense of a sensing line (Apple never did
want 7200 users to have the same flexibility as those who sprung for the
7500's)

Cheers...Michael



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