hehehe.... di iran dan saudi (seperti juga di belahan dunia lainnya), seandainya pria bisa hamil, sudah banyak yang menimang anak hahahaha....
btw, saya cocok dengan kutipan terakhir: "We refuse to choose between Islamic fundamentalism and American imperialism." At 10:38 PM 9/24/2007 -0700, you wrote: >Presiden Iran Ahmadinejad menghadiri undangan diskusi >di Columbia University. > >Dari sini kita bisa melihat betapa primitif dan >kampungannya orang-orang AS. Presiden George W Bush >tidak setuju takut orang2 AS terpengaruh. Sementara >Profesor Lee Bollinger yang mengundang mengeluarkan >kata-kata hinaan yang tak sesuai etika seperti >menghina Ahmadinejad sebagai picik dan kejam. > >Saya sendiri pernah berdebat dengan beberapa orang2 AS >di internet. Pertama mereka menuliskan kata2 kebon >binatang. Begitu saya menulis dengan tenang sambil >menyindir, wah bagus sekali attitude dan manner anda, >apakah ibu anda yang mengajari? > >Baru mereka sadar dan menanggapi argumen saya dengan >serius. > >Dalam stereotipe sebagian besar orang2 AS, orang Islam >itu adalah teroris, biadab, bodoh, dsb. Jadi jika ada >orang Islam yang tenang yang dengan mudah mematahkan >argumen-argumen mereka, mereka jadi bingung sendiri. >Kok ternyata tidak seperti itu ya. Barangkali itu >pikir mereka...:) > >Ketika dikatakan bahwa Iran menghukum mati orang2 >homoseksual, Ahmadinejad menanggapi dengan santai. >"Siapa yang mengatakan itu? Di negara kami tidak ada >orang2 homo seperti di negara anda. Jadi tidak ada >kejadian itu". Begitu jawab Ahmadinejad yang disambut >gerr oleh para peserta diskusi. > >Salam > ><http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070925/ap_on_re_us/iran_us>http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070925/ap_on_re_us/iran_us >Ahmadinejad questions 9/11, Holocaust > >By NAHAL TOOSI, Associated Press Writer 29 minutes ago > >NEW YORK - Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad >defended Holocaust revisionists and raised questions >about who carried out the Sept. 11 attacks in a tense >showdown Monday at Columbia University, where the >school's head introduced the hard-line leader by >calling him a "petty and cruel dictator." > >Ahmadinejad portrayed himself as an intellectual and >argued that his administration respected reason and >science. But the former engineering professor, >appearing shaken and irate over he called "insults" >from his host, soon found himself drawn into the type >of rhetoric that has alienated American audiences in >the past. > >He provoked derisive laughter by responding to a >question about Iran's execution of homosexuals by >saying: "In Iran we don't have homosexuals like in >your country ... I don't know who's told you that we >have this." > >Columbia's president, Lee Bollinger, set the combative >tone in his introduction of Ahmadinejad: "Mr. >President, you exhibit all the signs of a petty and >cruel dictator." > >Ahmadinejad retorted that Bollinger's opening was "an >insult to information and the knowledge of the >audience here." > >"There were insults and claims that were incorrect, >regretfully," Ahmadinejad said, accusing Bollinger of >falling under the influence of the hostile U.S. press >and politicians. > >Ahmadinejad drew audience applause at times, such as >when he bemoaned the plight of the Palestinians. But >he often declined to offer the simple answers the >audience sought, responding instead with his own >questions or long statements about history and >justice. > >Ahmadinejad has in the past called for Israel's >elimination. But his exact remarks have been disputed. >Some translators say he called for Israel to be "wiped >off the map," but others say that would be better >translated as "vanish from the pages of time" >implying Israel would disappear on its own rather than >be destroyed. > >Asked by an audience member if Iran sought the >destruction of Israel, Ahmadinejad did not answer >directly. > >"We are friends of all the nations," he said. "We are >friends with the Jewish people. There are many Jews in >Iran living peacefully with security." > >He also said Palestinians must determine their own >future. > >Ahmadinejad's past statements about the Holocaust also >have raised hackles in the West, and were soundly >attacked by Bollinger. > >"In a December 2005 state television broadcast, you >described the Holocaust as the fabricated legend," >Bollinger told Ahmadinejad said in his opening >remarks. "One year later, you held a two-day >conference of Holocaust deniers." > >Bollinger said that might fool the illiterate and >ignorant. > >"When you come to a place like this, it makes you >simply ridiculous. The truth is that the Holocaust is >the most documented event in human history," he said. > >Ahmadinejad denied he had questioned whether the >Holocaust occurred. > >"Granted this happened, what does it have to do with >the Palestinian people?" he said. > >But Ahmadinejad went on to say that he was defending >the rights of European academics imprisoned for >"questioning certain aspects" of the Holocaust, an >apparent reference to a small number who have been >prosecuted under national laws for denying or >minimizing the genocide. > >"There's nothing known as absolute," Ahmadinejad said. >He said the Holocaust has been abused as a >justification for Israeli mistreatment of the >Palestinians. > >"Why is it that the Palestinian people are paying the >price for an event they had nothing to do with?" he >asked. > >Asked why he had asked to visit the World Trade Center >site a request denied by New York authorities >Ahmadinejad said he wanted to express sympathy for the >victims of the Sept. 11 attacks. > >Then he appeared to question whether al-Qaida was >responsible, saying more research was needed. > >"If the root causes of 9/11 are examined properly >why it happened, what caused it, what were the >conditions that led to it, who truly was involved, who >was really involved and put it all together to >understand how to prevent the crisis in Iraq, fix the >problem in Afghanistan and Iraq combined," Ahmadinejad >said. > >Bollinger drew strong criticism for inviting >Ahmadinejad to Columbia and had promised tough >questions in his introduction. But the stridency of >his attack on the Iranian leader took many by >surprise. > >"You are either brazenly provocative or astonishingly >uneducated," Bollinger told Ahmadinejad about the >leader's Holocaust denial. "Will you cease this >outrage?" > >Bollinger's introduction was "very harsh," said Hamid >Dabashi, a professor of Iranian studies at Columbia >University. > >"Inviting him and then turning around and alienating >and insulting an entire nation whose representative >this man happens to be is simply inappropriate," said >Dabashi, who also criticized Ahmadinejad. > >Instead of addressing most of Bollinger's accusations >directly, Ahmadinejad offered quotes from the Quran >and criticism of the Bush administration and past >American governments, from warrant-less wiretapping to >the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki in >Japan. > >He closed his prepared remarks with a terse smile, to >applause and boos, before taking questions from the >audience. > >In Iran, Ahmadinejad's appearance at Columbia could be >seen on Arabic satellite channels and state >television's Arabic-language service, but it did not >appear on channels that broadcast in Farsi, the >language of Iran. > >Asked about his country's nuclear intentions, >Ahmadinejad insisted the program is peaceful, legal >and entirely within Iran's rights, despite attempts by >"monopolistic," "selfish" powers to derail it. "How >come is it that you have that right, and we can't have >it?" he added. > >President Bush said Ahmadinejad's appearance at >Columbia "speaks volumes about, really, the greatness >of America." > >He told Fox News Channel that if Bollinger considered >Ahmadinejad's visit an educational experience for >Columbia students, "I guess it's OK with me." > >But conservatives on Capitol Hill were critical. Sen. >Joseph Lieberman, an independent from Connecticut, >said he thought the invitation to Ahmadinejad was a >mistake "because he comes literally with blood on his >hands." > >Thousands of people jammed two blocks of 47th Street >across from the United Nations to protest >Ahmadinejad's visit to New York for the opening of the >U.N. General Assembly session. Organizers claimed a >turnout of tens of thousands. Police did not >immediately have a crowd estimate. > >The speakers, most of them politicians and officials >from Jewish organizations, proclaimed their support >for Israel and criticized the Iranian leader for his >remarks questioning the Holocaust. > >"We're here today to send a message that there is >never a reason to give a hatemonger an open stage," >New York City Council Speaker Christine Quinn said. > >Hundreds of protesters also assembled at Columbia. >Dozens stood near the lecture hall where Ahmadinejad >was scheduled to speak, linking arms and singing >traditional Jewish folk songs about peace and >brotherhood. A two-person band nearby played "You Are >My Sunshine." > >Signs in the crowd displayed a range of messages, >including one reading: "We refuse to choose between >Islamic fundamentalism and American imperialism." > >___ > >Associated Press writers Karen Matthews and Aaron >Clark contributed to this report. > >=== >Ingin belajar Islam sesuai Al Qur'an dan Hadits? >Kirim email ke: ><mailto:syiar-islam-subscribe%40yahoogroups.com>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >__________________________________________________________ >Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! >FareChase. ><http://farechase.yahoo.com/>http://farechase.yahoo.com/ > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
