Hi Norm,

thanks for this clarification. Hoping that we will have in the next 
months a solution. :-)

Best regards

Pascal

Norm Jacobs wrote:
> Comments are inline
>
> Pascal Kreyer wrote:
>> On which level will CUPS be integrated ? Between the customer 
>> application and the printer directly or through PAPI ?
>>   Why should we add cups support on GTK, mozilla products or 
>> staroffice if we send the printers through PAPI ?
>>   
> We actually don't have to add CUPS support to any of these 
> components.  It's a matter of building and shipping the existing 
> code.  We haven't done so before because we haven't shipped CUPS.
>> An another question. What is the actual status of capability support 
>> from the printing project ? 
> Wendy is better equipped to answer this.  She has been looking at 
> adding capabilities support to PAPI.
>> On my point of view, this is certainly most important that CUPS 
>> integration. Should we not create before a solution that work with 
>> 90% of all applications before to integrate any other print service ? 
> Several years ago, we worked with others to define an interface for 
> that, PAPI came out of that.  Unfortunately, PAPI currently falls 
> short in the area of capabilities and has gone largely unadopted.  On 
> the other hand, CUPS (and libcups) address this area and seem to be 
> being largely adopted in the open source world.
>
>> Actually only Acrobat Reader use CUPS  to obtain the capability 
>> information.
>>   If i look the different customer request on my side, the most 
>> important is to unify the print dialog box and in same time add the 
>> capability support like duplex, multi-tray and black/white switch 
>> support.
>>   
> Along those lines, the GTK print dialog support for CUPS includes PPD 
> file options.  The deprecated libgnomeprint support does as well.  The 
> Mozilla support that uses libcups doesn't supply capabilities, but 
> rumor has it that Mozilla is looking to use the GTK print dialog in 
> the not too distant future.  I think that StarOffice (OpenOffice) can 
> also use the CUPS interface to get PPD file data for it's dialog.  I 
> believe that the same is also true for toolkits like Qt and other 
> applications like Inkscape.
>
> Just to throw a wrench in the whole thing, there is work in progress 
> in the OpenPrinting world to create a unified print  dialog.  (see 
> http://www.mmiworks.net/eng/publications/labels/openPrinting.html) 
> Peter Sikking is working on the UI design and I think that some people 
> are planning on getting together to implement something based on his 
> design work in a couple of months in Europe.
>
> There are trade-offs between using CUPS or using LP as your print 
> service.  At a very cursory level, CUPS enjoys better desktop 
> application integration than LP and it enjoys a wider set of printer 
> support.  On the other hand, LP has some client side name service 
> support and server side features currently not available under CUPS.
>
>    -Norm
>

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