Hi PThompson,

With respect to Giclee prints and CMYK -- it would be very helpful to find
out what printer is being used. Giclee is a now common euphemism for inkjet
printing, but was initially used several years ago by Iris to brand its
printer's output. Given this, I thought I would comment on your post
spekaing to how Designjet would work.

Inkjet color gamut is a complex interaction between the ink and each
specific media -- primarily because the media affects the amount of ink that
can be laid down, and secondarily because many ink/media combinations rely
on the reflectance and whiteness of the media substrate (light passes
through the dot, and is reflected off the substrate vs. light reflecting off
the surface of the pigment of an offset dot). 

By all means, do not use an offset color space like Euroscale for an inkjet
print. Inkjet printers, in particular those with light magenta and cyans,
have a much higher gamut than offset. Some have a higher gamut than silver
halide prints.

To work optimally in CMYK in PS with a Designjet, you must select the proper
media profile in your CMYK color preference. This should be available from
the manufacturer.

All Designjet printers have internal processes to convert between RGB and
CMYK. These will be based on the media loaded in the printer. Note that this
assumes the operator has properly selected the media type from the control
panel, and the shop has kept the printer's firmware up-to-date. 

This default workflow is very easy, and produces very high quality results.
It takes some good effort and skills working in a profiled CMYK space in PS
to improve on it -- and it will be an incremental, not transformational
improvement.

If this print is important to you, and your print provider is not
knowledgable on these issues, then you may want to consider finding another
shop. 

Again, Giclee is just a term -- most often used for inkjet printing, but
most closely associated with Iris. If you need another shop, find one with
either a Designjet 5000/5500 or newer Epson printer, and you will get an
excellent print by supplying an RGB file. 

I do not know enough about Iris workflows to comment what it requires.
However, you should not assume Iris is vastly superior to today's six/seven
color inkjet printers.

Cheers,
Steve

> I only seem to get to speak to someone (the owner!) who 
> doesn't seem to be 
> able to tell me much except "provide CMYK files". 
> I have "converted" the RGB's to CMYK in PS7. They lose a lot 
> of the vivid 
> colours straight off. Pouring over Martin Evening's book I 
> have learned about 
> Relative Colorimetric and Perceptual, with and without black point 
> compensation. Generally the images look better with RC + black point.


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