To lie means to knowingly make a false statement. A statement that is made,
based on faulty information, is not necessarily a lie. It's the old truth
tables from Logic 101. The conclusions he reached were the same as the
Democrats who were given the same information and voted FOR the war. Why are
we continuing to plow this same ground. The decision to go to war was
bi-partisan. The data was flawed, but both parties voted based on it. That
data came from multiple sources, not just U.S. Intel. We are at war, get
over it.

John

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Anthony L. Testi
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 1:30 PM
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Subject: Re: [OT] Another Bush Lie

Are (some) people upset because they think President Bush lied to them for
the reasons we went into Iraq?  If so was it because they belived what they
think he said and felt that we should go, later finding out that it was a
'lie' so felt betrayed? Or maybe they 'knew' it was a lie at the start and
therefore we should of not gone, lie or not.  Is it the 'lying' or the going
that has (some) people upset?  I assume there is a mixture, and of course
other 'solutions' other then the two I just listed exist.

I'm doing my best to be a 'martian' and observe this somewhat detacted.  

Here in Eugene OR. (Where I am living)  there seems to a large number of
people ( at least vocal, e.g. street protests, letters to the editors etc. )
that shall we be kind and say disagree with mush of the presidents policys,
and I am trying very much to understand their thinking, but it is hard for
me to follow the lack of facts.  I've asked about the 'lying' and I have not
yet received a clear answer.  (Maybe Ed's recent post will provide me with
that information when I've read it or the links he has provided.)   I can
appreciate people putting different weights on the facts, e.g. I believe
that Oil was a reason for going into Iraq thou I put little weight on it,
Person X may say that Oil was a primary reason for going into Iraq.  I on
the other hand would put much more weight onto the UN resoluions then say
the 'other' person.  

A small favor, I really do not like the name calling in policts.  No I am
not going to ask for others here to stop, I'm not that much of a fool ( ok
I've just called myself a name. )  If you see me doing it please point in
out, I'm trying to stop myself.

Anthony L. Testi 





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