Then you should understand why we are in iraq removing a dictatorship that
did the same thing.
I will admit that in hindsight, the evidence that the cia and other
organizations supplied was flawed and I'm a firm believer that we should
disband the cia and fire all of them and quit meddling in other countries
affairs, but at the same time, I also believe that countries that were / are
led by dictators such as iraq, syria, iran or n. korea WILL supply weapons
of mass destruction to terrorists just as soon as they have them and they
have buyers with lots of cash, so even though I don't like war, I do support
this one against the muslim extremists.
As for the military, served my time, luckily in peace time, but I maintain a
map on my web site for ex navy friends and so I get a lot of email that is
supposedly from over there and the story I hear is lots difference then what
the news papers state.
There again, eradicate the CIA
Put the newspapers out of business if they create news, which I believe they
do.
Put the attorneys in jail if they defend somebody that they know is guilty.
Vote all the politicians out.
Yep, I agree to all of the above 4 lines, but I also realize it won't happen
as long as we require perfectionism in our politicians because I realize
that none of us are perfect.
Virgil Bierschwale
Armstrong and Skipper Real Estate
(830) 329-6774 Cell
(830) 864-4726 Home
(830) 864-4799 Fax
http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com
http://www.bierschwale.com
http://www.virgilslist.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ricardo Aráoz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <profox@leafe.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 5:02 AM
Subject: Re: [OT] Crunch time!
El Sábado 04 Noviembre 2006 00:43, Virgil Bierschwale escribió:
And you base your understanding of what is happening in iraq from the
actual people serving over there or perhaps what you hear from the media ?
Well you see. He uses metaphors, so I gues I can feel empathy. I have
obviously never served there (have you?), and If I had heard from it from
people there then it would be hearsay.
But I endured 7 years of military dictatorship, 60,000 missing people, my
wife's grandmom kidnapped (by the state forces), raped, tortured
(electricity, submarine, tweezers, etc). And then some. The funny thing is
this coup d'etat (as many others all through South America) was backed,
organized and financed by USA. So here's a tough question for you. Who do
you
think I might percieve as the thief/bully of the metaphors that have been
going arround?
BTW, never have been a communist, I don't like them.
Virgil Bierschwale
Armstrong and Skipper Real Estate
(830) 329-6774 Cell
(830) 864-4726 Home
(830) 864-4799 Fax
http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com
http://www.bierschwale.com
http://www.virgilslist.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ricardo Aráoz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <profox@leafe.com>
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 8:59 PM
Subject: Re: [OT] Crunch time!
El Viernes 03 Noviembre 2006 22:04, Virgil Bierschwale escribió:
> Interesting concept..
> A thief breaks into your house and steals your possessions and kills
> your
> family.
Oh, I see! A metaphor! Lets see.... You must be referring to this bush
fellow
going to the Iraqi's house, stealing their oil and killing their people by
the thousands.
But no, that's not possible. He was actually 'defending' himself. It's
very
easy to see how Iraq was such a great threat to a small country like the
USA,
and if you consider they are so close to each other, the danger was clear
and
imminent.
Besides, one must judge him by his results, all's well that ends well. He
invaded and now the world is a safer place, terrorism has decreased, the
Iraqi's are safer and prospering, and the USA has been able to reduce it's
military budget due to the fact that the world has become a peacefull
place
to live in......
> A year later he realizes you did nothing to defend yourself, so he comes
> back
>
> That doesnt sound right to me, but that is what I'm hearing.
>
> I don't believe in attacking anybody, nor do I feel that we should
> attack
> anybody.
> But I do believe in defense and the right to defend your family and yes,
> I would blow anybody away that threatened them.
>
> Virgil Bierschwale
> Armstrong and Skipper Real Estate
> (830) 329-6774 Cell
> (830) 864-4726 Home
> (830) 864-4799 Fax
> http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com
> http://www.bierschwale.com
> http://www.virgilslist.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ricardo Aráoz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <profox@leafe.com>
> Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 6:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [OT] Crunch time!
>
> El Viernes 03 Noviembre 2006 20:34, Virgil Bierschwale escribió:
> > Do you honestly believe that because you throw in the towel, that the
> > muslim extremists will stop what they are doing ?
>
> Of course not! You should keep invading their countries and killing
> their
> children. Then, they will surely be so gratefull they'll certainly stop.
>
> > Virgil Bierschwale
> > Armstrong and Skipper Real Estate
> > (830) 329-6774 Cell
> > (830) 864-4726 Home
> > (830) 864-4799 Fax
> > http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com
> > http://www.bierschwale.com
> > http://www.virgilslist.com
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ed Leafe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "ProFox Mailing List" <profox@leafe.com>
> > Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 5:01 PM
> > Subject: [OT] Crunch time!
> >
> > > As the critical mid-term elections approach, it's time for everyone
> > > concerned with reversing this march toward endless war and imperial
> > > executive power to get involved. There are two get-out-the-vote
> > > drives
> > > being coordinated by MoveOn.org as we head into this last weekend.
> > >
> > > The first is an effort to set up parties for people to get together
> > > and make these important calls in a group setting. It's called 'Rock
> > > the House (and Senate) Phone Party', and you can look for a party
> > > near
> > > you at:
> > >
> > > <http://pol.moveon.org/event/events/index.html?action_id=62>
> > >
> > > If there isn't a party near you at a convenient time, you can also
> > > contribute by making these calls yourself, using their 'Call For
> > > Change'. The URL is:
> > >
> > > <http://pol.moveon.org/phone/volunteer/c4c.html>
> > >
> > > There are several close races in my area, and in between upgrading
> > > the
> > > server this weekend, I'll be making as many calls as possible. If
> > > you can contribute in your area, that would go a long way to finally
> > > ending the lunacy of the last 6 years.
> > >
> > > -- Ed Leafe
> > > -- http://leafe.com
> > > -- http://dabodev.com
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