On 5/29/2014 11:39 AM, mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote:
On 2014-05-29 14:24, Alan Bourke wrote:
On Thu, May 29, 2014, at 07:16 PM,
mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote:
On 2014-05-28 20:53, Paul McNett wrote:
> <snipped> I can't believe they are a successful company.
It proves how their marketing department and 800# gorilla stance has
made them successful.
So without the marketing department every business in the world would be
a Linux shop? Providing software and operating systems that are in large
part reliable, interoperable and backwards compatible for many years
counts for nothing in the whole equation? Of course they're successful -
they operate like any other enormo-corp in terms of stance and
marketing, and in large part what they sell does what people want.
I was thinking about the early years when Excel beat out Lotus 1-2-3
even though the latter was deemed a better spreadsheet program by most
iirc. Same with Powerpoint beating out Harvard Graphics and Word
beating out WordPerfect. True, the other companies were
out-maneuvered by largely by MS's marketing moves, imo. And don't
forget about the DR DOS controversy that came to light in
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Microsoft, specifically
the AARD code: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AARD_code.
From that link: "The rationale for the AARD code came to light when
internal memos were released during the United States v. Microsoft
antitrust case in 1999. Internal memos released by Microsoft revealed
that the specific focus of these tests was DR-DOS.[10] At one point,
Microsoft CEO Bill Gates sent a memo to a number of employees, reading
"You never sent me a response on the question of what things an app
would do that would make it run with MSDOS and not run with DR-DOS. Is
there feature [sic] they have that might get in our way?"[11][9]
Microsoft Senior Vice President Brad Silverberg later sent another
memo, stating: "What the [user] is supposed to do is feel
uncomfortable, and when he has bugs, suspect that the problem is
DR-DOS and then go out to buy MS-DOS."[11][9]"
Back to my point though about marketing: being the first to market is
huge, as we know, as long as you have staying power. Many users
thought Excel wasn't as good, but since it was in the Office bundle,
they had it and didn't want to go out and buy something else, even
though that something else might be a little better. See my point
about their marketing being largely responsible for their success (imo)?
I agree with both of you. I agree with Michael's point regarding the
early years and I agree with Alan, especially as it relates to FoxPro.
I have used the same basic tool for 22 years and successfully spanned
DOS, W3.1, NT, W8 and Terminal Services with one basic code base.
I think the point Paul & I are making here is that we have been working
with this stuff for a long time and what they have done with Windows 8
is a whole new order of mess. Why create a touch screen interface for a
desktop without providing a way for customers to choose the classic
look? Why create an app store (that doesn't make sense) when your
competition has clearly been successful with that. Then when a software
company chooses to integrate with the app store do they require you have
a Microsoft account in order to use it? Why do they require you to use
the app store for Windows 8.1 that creates a Windows 7 interface for
Windows 8. Finally, why does creating a Windows account while logged
into a local account change it to a Windows account?
"<snipped> I can't believe they are a successful company."
Paul did you the word "are" and not "were."
The world only turns in one direction as I understand it.
--
Jeff
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SanDC, Inc.
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