At 11:21 AM 11/28/2006 -0500, Malcolm Greene wrote:
...
> > FTP insecure because it was so old
>
>FTP *IS* insecure - both passwords and data are transfered unencrypted.
...

Just a quick note. You're falling for the hype. FTP is not 'insecure' - 
it's all in how you set up the FTP.

1) never have both read/write access to the same FTP folder
2) allow only anonymous connections to FTP
3) all FTP connections are controlled by a specific 'account' on the server 
(one with very, very few rights)
4) if data transferred needs to be protected, make sure it's encrypted 
before transfer
5) do not trust any file received - scan it/verify it, etc

These (specifically 4 & 5) would (or should) apply to anything you also 
receive via HTTP. You do not know where it came from. You could potentially 
use client-side certificates for the SSL to try and verify things, but even 
then you can't be sure. What if that disgruntled users? What if someone got 
on that computer while the user was in the bathroom or their logon was 
compromised? Or what if the cert info got hijacked (aka MS Passport stuff 
getting compromised... <g>). The client-side cert files are stored locally, 
right - available for copy?

And just to give you a warm and fuzzy, some studies have shown lately that 
various SSL encryptions are getting easier to crack. So my advice is even 
if you're sending over SSL, you should encrypt your data (assuming it's 
important to protect it).

-Charlie



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