I'll comment for him. We used to be innocent until proven guilty. We still should be and as someone that has seen how things can become NASTY when you get into the system, I'm totally against any type of stereotyping at all.
I have to agree with leland, we seem, and not only for war to be in a premptive mode where if there is a chance you may fall and hurt yourself while riding your bicycle, then we're going to make a new law to ensure that you wear a helmet, pads, emergency whistle and jockstrap so that you don't hurt yourself.. Folks, we LEARN from making mistakes. If we make a mistake that kills us, well that was our lesson and that’s the way life needs to be. Sorry if that sounds cruel, but that’s life. Virgil Bierschwale http://www.virgilslist.com http://www.tccutlery.com http://www.bierschwale.com http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Leland Jackson Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 3:05 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Justice Dept. Database Stirs Privacy Fears I didn't invent the word Zionist, and it really doesn't carry any negative racial overtures, as far as I can see. I'm just basically opposed to war, unless the US is unavoidable pushed into it. I'm certainly opposed to preemptive war; like PNAC could somehow see the future, and then shape it using present preemptive wars. You still haven't commented on your thinking about the huge database under ongoing construction. #------------------------------ "The Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.48" Zionism Zi"on*ism, n. Zion + -ism. Among the Jews, a theory, plan, or movement for colonizing their own race in Palestine, the land of Zion, or, if that is impracticable, elsewhere, either for religious or nationalizing purposes; -- called also Zion movement. -- Zi"on*ist, n. -- Zi`on*is"tic, a. Webster 1913 Suppl. #-------------------------------- Regards, LelandJ Michael Madigan wrote: >Oh please, people use the word "Zionist" when they really want to say >"filthy Jew" > > > >--- Leland Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>So, you think you can kill the thread by invoking the dreaded >>"anti-Semite" label? I am not an anti-Semite; I just don't agree with >>the Neoconservative Doctrines. I hold all people in equally high >>esteem, and strive to judge people based on the content of their >>character; not race. I hold all human life as sacred. >> >>This is getting off on a tangent. We were talking about a secret >>database that hold a dossier on americans. Perhaps you have a though >>along those lines? >> >>Regards, >> >>LelandJ >> >>Michael Madigan wrote: >> >> >> >>>I bet you'd like to give those Zionists a Xyclon-B shower, wouldn't >>>you? >>> >>> >>> >>>--- Leland Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Many of President Bush's cabinet and political appointments are >>>>Neoconservatives, (eg Zionist War Zealot), that >>>> >>>> >>live >> >> >>>>in the US, but have >>>>dual citizenship in both the US and Israel. They are not >>>>instigators of the "War on Terrorism"; they created it. >>>> >>>>If we want to preserve our American heritage and freedoms, all >>>>Americans need to be educated about the dangers of the direction in >>>>which the PNAC is leading the US. We can preserve our freedom >>>> >>>> >>and >> >> >>>>the American way of >>>>life using the democratic vote as our weapon. If the country >>>>continues in the wrong direction, we will find ourself >>>> >>>> >>living >> >> >>>>under a morph >>>>democracy, which limits our choices of official we >>>>can elect to office >>>>and our freedoms. Protection of the American >>>> >>>> >>people >> >> >>>>and constitutional >>>>freedom are no mutually exclusive goals. Both can >>>>be achieve with the >>>>right balance. >>>> >>>>When I first moved to Abilene, Texas in 1979, city >>>>politics were control >>>>by a small group of influential Abilenians >>>> >>>> >>organized >> >> >>>>under the banner of >>>>"Citizens For Responsible Government". Whoever >>>> >>>> >>this >> >> >>>>group decided to >>>>support for city council was a shoe-in. This >>>> >>>> >>seemed >> >> >>>>odd to me having >>>>come from Dallas, Texas, as the "Citizens for >>>>Responsible Government" >>>>never consulted me, or anyone else, about what >>>> >>>> >>was >> >> >>>>wanted by the >>>>population of Abilene as a representative to the >>>>city council. America >>>>could slip into the same trap, with a small >>>>influence group of >>>>individuals controlling who becomes our >>>>representatives in Congress, the >>>>Supreme Court, and the Executive Branch. In such >>>> >>>> >>a >> >> >>>>democratic form of >>>>of government, the elected would be representing >>>>this small group of >>>>individual, rather than mainstream Americans. >>>> >>>>Consider yourself as a high ranking powerful >>>>government official with >>>>access to detailed, sensitive information about >>>>every American at your >>>>fingertips. Information can be a powerful weapon. >>>> >>>> >>>>You could SQL the >>>>database of Americans by religion, race, political >>>>affiliation, income, >>>>career choice, sexual orientation, age, sex, >>>>criminal record, Armed >>>>service record, and eventually DNA makeup, etc. A >>>>secret police force >>>>would be needed to maintain the database. The >>>>secret police could add >>>>to the database based on their surveillance, >>>>investigations, rumors, >>>>etc. Citizen could be encourage to add to the >>>>information in the >>>>database by reporting personal information that >>>> >>>> >>came >> >> >>>>to them from >>>>neighbor or aquantance, etc. You could then >>>>blackmail citizens, target >>>>groups of citizen for purposes of discrimination, >>>>abuse, or even >>>>elimination. It would be the perfect tool to >>>> >>>> >>insure >> >> >>>>perpetual power in >>>>government. >>>> >>>>Regards, >>>> >>>>LelandJ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Hal Kaplan wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>=> Subject: Re: [OT] Justice Dept. Database Stirs >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>Privacy Fears >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>=> >>>>>=> It means something in the overall big picture >>>>> >>>>> >>of >> >> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>the "War on >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>=> Terrorism". The "War on Terrorism" is a >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>fabricated pretext >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>=> to usher in the PNAC agenda. The PNAC agenda >>>>> >>>>> >>is >> >> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>to ensure >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>=> American and Israel will be the sole super >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>powers of the >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>=> world. The PNAC is made up of >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>"Neoconservatives", (eg >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>=> Zionist War Zealots), who want to protect >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>Israel, control >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>=> the ME and its oil reserves and thus the >>>>> >>>>> >>wealth >> >> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>of the >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>=> world, and preempt any threat to American and >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>Israeli >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>=> dominance in the world. Israel's doctrine of >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>preemption >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>=> includes targeting threats, whether they be >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >=== message truncated === > > > [excessive quoting removed by server] _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
