P.S

And Congratulations to Vera!

Dave 

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Peter Hart
Sent: 02 August 2007 11:52
To: ProFox Email List
Subject: RE: [NF] Win 2K Networking Question

Hi Dave

If you would like to talk to my Nephew who is a Guru with Networks, I
can give you his phone no.  He has already agreed to talk to you.

Ring me on my Mobile before 2.30. or after 6.00pm. (Vera becomes a
British Citizen today)  07885 963 857

Cheers

Peter


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Dave Crozier
Sent: 02 August 2007 10:46
To: 'ProFox Email List'
Subject: RE: [NF] Win 2K Networking Question

Peter,
Thanks for your input. That is exactly my thinking on the problem but it
doesn't seem to work consistently. Initially I thought it was because I
hadn't rebooted the terminals when changing gateways etc., but this is
so
inconsistent I'm really confused. 

In my lay mans terms, what I'd really like to do is leave the clients so
they automatically are set up without having to manually set
gateways/DNS
and then set up the Server to route all the Internet requests through
itself
to the router. However (1) how do I do this easily - or the "best way"
and
(2) how do I set the server to relay any DNS requests out to the router
or
an external DNS, whichever is the best option. 

I read somewhere that you can set up the "Active Directory" so that DNS
values are loaded up onto the terminal from the Server i.e so you only
need
to set up the server once, but I can't find reference to it anywhere.

Even though this is only a small network I'd like to sort out the "best
practice" as I guess that I've fudged the issue in the past by always
using
the DHCP on the router, which I don't think is the correct way - even
though
it works.

As the owner of the network said, if the Router dies then all his
network
would die as it couldn't allocate IP addresses to the workstations,
whereas
if the Server runs DHCP then they would still be up and running. Also
maintenance would all be at one point in the network and I think he's
got a
valid point there.

As for DNS settings I'd prefer not to hard code into the server or
terminals
but use the DNS settings as uploaded automatically to the router by the
ISP
to keep it simple for maintenance i.e let the DNS first point be the
server,
which then passes the request to the router, which in turn passes it
onto
the ISP's DNS servers - if I can of course.

Dave Crozier

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf
Of Peter Cushing
Sent: 02 August 2007 10:05
To: profox@leafe.com
Subject: Re: [NF] Win 2K Networking Question

Dave Crozier wrote:
> To All,
> I'm setting up a small network with an ADSL Modem/Router (IP address
> 192.168.0.2), 1 x Win 2K Server (IP address 192.168.0.1) running
active
> Directory and a number of Win 2K clients, each client using DHCP from
the
> Server to get an IP address in the range 192.168.0.100 to
192.168.0.150. 
>
> In any previous networks I've always used the ROUTER to assign dynamic
IP
> addresses to the clients with the server still having a fixed address
with
> no problems whatsoever but I can't seem to work out the best/easiest
way
to
> configure the client machines with regards to Gateways/DNS Server etc
when
> using the Server as a DHCP source.
>
> Using my preferred method of DHCP on the router means that I can leave
the
> "obtain IP Address automatically" setting along with forgetting about
the
> Default Gateway and DNS Server settings on the clients but this
situation
is
> different and I'm just a little stumped at present.
>
> What would your suggestions be for settings of Gateway, DNS
> Primary/secondary on the server and workstations if I HAVE to use DHCP
on
> the server as opposed to on the router?
>
> I'm sure I'm being really stupid here in missing something out as the
DHCP
> from the server is fine in that I can see the whole network from the
> workstations but cannot see the Internet unless I put in a DNS setting
of
> 192.168.0.2 and/or a gateway of 192.168.0.2 which then seems to screw
up
the
> local networking. Even worse some workstations seem to work
intermittently
> with one of the previous Gateway/DNS settings.
>
>   
Hi Dave,

I'm no expert in this area (arse covered!), but there should not be any 
problem getting the network addresses from the server.  We do that now 
using W2K3 and used to use it with NT.  You can also set the server to 
be the DNS source but I think you need another piece of software to then

forward the requests to the router.  We used to use a program called 
VSOCKS which is basically a proxy server.  What you can also do for the 
DNS is to set them to the external setting recommeded by the ISP.  This 
is what I do at home with 4 machines.  They all have DNS or 
194.168.4.100 etc.   This works fine.
As for the default gateway, AFAIK that should always be the router.  
That is the settings we use here and at home.

HTH

Peter



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