How did people do it before social security was invented? Were people dying in the streets? Were people jumping out of windows?
--- "Leland F. Jackson, CPA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I suppose the Social Security system is also > designed to control USA > citizens. What do you think would happen if all > citizens were required > to provide for their own retirement? I hate to say > it, but it would be > like throwing sheep to the wolfs, or as Eli Wallach > said in the movie > "The Magnificent Seven", if God did not want them > sheered, he would not > have made them sheep, ahy. LOL > > Drug companies develops drugs that prevent thousand > of death to those > who can afford them. Drug companies usually patent > these life saving > drugs, which gives them a monopoly over the lives of > the afflicted > people. They then extort moneys from those > afflicted people by > withholding the drugs from anyone unable or > unwilling to pay up. > > A universal health care system would level the > playing field allow all > those who needed the drug to receive them, regulate > prices so their is a > relationship between the cost to produce the drug > and the price charged, > and run a system that systematically collect the > money needed to keep > the health care system viable. I have a hard time > finding anything > wrong with this approach. > > Regards, > > LelandJ > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> Not true, drug companies still develop new drugs, > the government buys > >> the drugs from the drug companies, they are just > at a negotiated price. > >> > > > > > >> Glaxo Smith Kline, Welcome, Astra Zenica, Bayer, > UCB etc all European > >> drug companies all make profits all develop new > drugs. > >> > > > > > >> Yes some drugs cost less than the $12 > prescription price but some cost > >> more, you just pay a set price. > >> > > > > They wouldn't tell you that if they didn't want > you to believe it. The pharmacuetical business is > amazingly complex and regulated. Along with the > regulation from the government is the fear of > lawsuits by predatory lawyers. Because of this, > bringing a new drug online costs a rediculous amount > of money, hence robbing the companies of the ability > to recoup their costs in a timely manner would > dampen the incentive to develop more new drugs. > > > > Having said that, I also believe they are greedy > SOBs gaming the system. However, without the profit > motive, little of value would be accomplished in a > reasonable time frame. It has been said that a > nationalized health care system would have the > efficiency of the post office and the compassion of > the IRS. The temptation to keep costs down by > delaying expensive care until the expiration date of > the patient would be just too great for the > bureacratic mindset. > > > > As many problems as we have with our system, I > would take it any day over one where some bureaucrat > makes decision concerning my health. Govt people > think differently than normal people. Take the No > Child Left Behind Act (yeah, I know where it came > from), in practice, it brings the class down to the > lowest common denominator as teachers have to spend > time pushing ropes with kids who don't want to even > be in school and others who can accomplish something > are neglected. > > > > Govts are incapable of setting logical priorities. > Cancer and heart disease are far bigger killers > than AIDS, yet because there is a whiny constituency > for this disease, and they call anyone approaching > the question without their emotional distress a > bigot... politicians and charities cave in and push > contributions to this type of research and treatment > beyond what the numbers would call for. > > > > A pox upon all who would control us through the > health care system. > > > > -- > > Larry Miller > > > > --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- > > multipart/mixed > > multipart/alternative > > text/plain (text body -- kept) > > text/html > > message/rfc822 > > --- > > [excessive quoting removed by server] _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
