I suppose the Social Security system is also designed to control USA 
citizens.  What do you think would happen if all citizens were required 
to provide for their own retirement?  I hate to say it, but it would be 
like throwing sheep to the wolfs, or as Eli Wallach said in the movie 
"The Magnificent Seven", if God did not want them sheered, he would not 
have made them sheep, ahy.  LOL

Drug companies develops drugs that prevent thousand of death to those 
who can afford them.  Drug companies usually patent these life saving 
drugs, which gives them a monopoly over the lives of the afflicted 
people.  They then extort moneys from those afflicted people by 
withholding the drugs from anyone unable or unwilling to pay up.

A universal health care system would level the playing field allow all 
those who needed the drug to receive them, regulate prices so their is a 
relationship between the cost to produce the drug and the price charged, 
and run a system that systematically collect the money needed to keep 
the health care system viable.  I have a hard time finding anything 
wrong with this approach.

Regards,

LelandJ

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>> Not true, drug companies still develop new drugs, the government buys
>> the drugs from the drug companies, they are just at a negotiated price.
>>     
>
>   
>> Glaxo Smith Kline, Welcome, Astra Zenica, Bayer, UCB etc all European
>> drug companies all make profits all develop new drugs.
>>     
>
>   
>> Yes some drugs cost less than the $12 prescription price but some cost
>> more, you just pay a set price.
>>     
>
> They wouldn't tell you that if they didn't want you to believe it.  The 
> pharmacuetical business is amazingly complex and regulated.  Along with the 
> regulation from the government is the fear of lawsuits by predatory lawyers.  
> Because of this, bringing a new drug online costs a rediculous amount of 
> money, hence robbing the companies of the ability to recoup their costs in a 
> timely manner would dampen the incentive to develop more new drugs.
>
> Having said that, I also believe they are greedy SOBs gaming the system.  
> However, without the profit motive, little of value would be accomplished in 
> a reasonable time frame.  It has been said that a nationalized health care 
> system would have the efficiency of the post office and the compassion of the 
> IRS.  The temptation to keep costs down by delaying expensive care until the 
> expiration date of the patient would be just too great for the bureacratic 
> mindset.  
>
> As many problems as we have with our system, I would take it any day over one 
> where some bureaucrat makes decision concerning my health.  Govt people think 
> differently than normal people.  Take the No Child Left Behind Act (yeah, I 
> know where it came from), in practice, it brings the class down to the lowest 
> common denominator as teachers have to spend time pushing ropes with kids who 
> don't want to even be in school and others who can accomplish something are 
> neglected.  
>
> Govts are incapable of setting logical priorities.  Cancer and heart disease 
> are far bigger killers than AIDS, yet because there is a whiny constituency 
> for this disease, and they call anyone approaching the question without their 
> emotional distress a bigot... politicians and charities cave in and push 
> contributions to this type of research and treatment beyond what the numbers 
> would call for.
>
> A pox upon all who would control us through the health care system.
>
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> Larry Miller 
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