> 
>       It always bugs me when people try to "prove" supernatural stuff
> using
> science. By definition, science does not address supernatural things;
> otherwise, they would be natural things.

I actually totally agree with Ed on this. And so does God (1 Cor 2:14).

> 
>       Science also does not exclude Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny,
> Zeus,
> Spiderman, Thor, Apollo, Shiva, or the Tooth Fairy. Nor does it
> exclude any of the fantastic images you saw in your dreams last night.

Science unfortunately limits its inquiry to the least common denominator of
human experience, i.e., the five (often unreliable) senses. And even with
these in common men of goodwill disagree more than they agree.

The scientific process as a logical framework is awesome, and God's all for
it ("come let us reason together" in Isaiah 1). 

The difficulty is in the most basic assumptions about reality that you start
out at (often unconsciously)---this is where men diverge, starting with "God
exists" vs. "God does not exist". They are, as atheist radical Ayn Rand
would call them, "metaphysical givens," from which further reasoning
proceeds, but which no amount of reasoning can deduce logically. Federalist
Paper 31 calls them "primary truths and first principles, on which all
subsequent reasoning must depend".

At best science has to admit its ambivalence about the existence of God, and
confess the inadequacy of its tools, techniques and methods for addressing
spiritual things. At worst, it becomes arrogant in its presumptions, wise in
its own conceit, and hostile to the living God.

Not science, per se, but self-described scientists, I mean.

- Bob

> 
> -- Ed Leafe
> 



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