The officers actions can not be defended. It was mild brutality, but brutality just the same. An officer should never use force unless threatened. As a matter of fact we have even reduced our force response to a "force level continuum". The underlying theory is that an officer will always respond with force that is one level greater than that which is being used against the officer. Offender uses aggressive language, the officer uses presence and voice commands. The offender puts or attempts to lay hands on the officer, the officer can use pepper spray, a night stick, grappling, judo, pressure points, holds, etc. and so it goes all the way up to lethal action.
John Harvey -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pete Theisen Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 9:56 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Kicked or just pushed with a foot? John wrote: > Yep, he crossed the line. He had no reason, other than being sick of dealing > with stupid, nasty, stinking drunks, to kick the guy. I would think he > should get suspended for this, and then have to go through some training on > anger management. Hi John, Well, what they *did* do was suspend him and the chief. I don't think they will be fired forever, though. Doesn't look to me that he kicked him all that hard. Had he done so the guy would still be in the hospital or maybe dead. > The guy was handcuffed, wasn't resisting, was on the ground when the > boot went in. If the police want the respect of the public then they > have to act without reproach. > > The officer was out of order, whether he was drunk or not it just ain't > right... > The leftylibs are going hateful over this story. An officer is accused > of kicking a drunk (rather than, say, shooting him) The department gave > the drunk $400 cash to forget about it, as drunk as he was he wouldn't > have remembered anyway. > > But viewing the video, it looks to me that the officer's kick was a mere > gesture, just enough of a push to topple the already tipsy guy, and the > city is being had. > > Any kick video experts out there? What do you think? > > http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20090717/VIDEO/307179996/2055/NEWS -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ http://elect-pete-theisen.com/ [excessive quoting removed by server] _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/09e601ca0e66$c4020440$4c060c...@[email protected] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.

