If Obama thinks that was a cage match, then he needs to grow a pair.

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From: lelandj <[email protected]>
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Your idea of a debate seems to be a no holds bared cage fight.  I doubt 
the American people would get much out of that kind of format.

The shame is, to a certain extent, the debate did follow that format.  
Mitt Romney did well by disregarding the rules in interrupting the 
President, especially when the President was to speak about something 
Governor Romney did not want the American people to hear.  After 
Governor Romney hijacked a topic, he maintained it with barrage after 
barrage of fast talking criticisms of the President, while praising 
himself.  Still, in all the interruptions and fast talking Governor 
Romney said little, if anything, about the details of how he plans to 
run the country, which is scary.

I fear Governor Romney might start more wars in the middle east, 
especially Iran, as about 2/3 of his foreign policy advisers are Neocons 
from the Bush era.  Although governor Romney doesn't like the term, 
Neocon, he does like the Neoconservative philosophy and the Neocons seem 
to have gotten into his head.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/16/opinion/sunday/dowd-neocons-slither-back.html?_r=1&nl=todaysheadlines&emc=edit_th_20120916

or

http://tinyurl.com/97n6dsf

Also

https://www.google.com/search?q=Mitt+Romney+and+the+Neocons&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a

Regards,

Lelandj

On 10/05/2012 12:40 PM, Michael Oke wrote:
> I'll discount the moderator as he was asleep. You are telling me that 
> President Obama is incapable of defending his position and holding his own 
> against ONE man?  Well past time for him to go if that is the case.
>
> I'll give you a better suggestion, Barry is a caricature of a politician who 
> has been exposed as an empty suit.
>
>
> Michael Oke, II
> 661-349-6221
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> On Oct 5, 2012, at 10:25 AM, lelandj <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On 10/05/2012 12:08 PM, Michael Oke wrote:
>>> So you are operating from the same rule book.
>> The debate had a very well defined set of rule, if that's what you mean, but 
>> Governor Romney evidently developed some bad habits during his debates for 
>> the Republican nomination.  Governor Romney used these acquired bad habits 
>> by interrupting the moderator, or President Obama, so essentially he was 
>> playing by his own set of rules.  This allowed him to run over both the 
>> moderator and President Obama.  The moderator couldn't handle Governor 
>> Romney, who kept steeling the floor and then maintaining it by talking 
>> faster than a New York salesman.  LOL
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> LelandJ
>>
>>
>> Michael Oke, II 661-349-6221 Contents of this and all messages are intended 
>> for their designated recipient. On Oct 5, 2012, at 9:59 AM, lelandj 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Governor Romney was well seasoned coming off the debates for the 
>>>> Republican nomination.  He was hardened by strong contenders like Rick 
>>>> Santorum, Rick Perry, Newt Gingrich, Ron Paul, etc.
>>>>
>>>> President Obama, on the other hand, was off his game having not debated 
>>>> for four years.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Lelandj
>>>>
>>>> On 10/05/2012 11:44 AM, Michael Oke wrote:
>>>>> Because you didn't hear Gore's excuses the following day?  Face facts, 
>>>>> Barry is a good reader, not a great speaker.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Michael Oke, II
>>>>> 661-349-6221
>>>>>
>>>>> Contents of this and all messages are intended for their designated 
>>>>> recipient.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 5, 2012, at 9:17 AM, lelandj <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/05/2012 11:12 AM, Michael Oke wrote:
>>>>>>> Reading from the Al Gore playbook Leland?
>>>>>> I need a little more context and content here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LelandJ
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Michael Oke, II
>>>>>>> 661-349-6221
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Contents of this and all messages are intended for their designated 
>>>>>>> recipient.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Oct 5, 2012, at 9:09 AM, lelandj <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The debate was badly moderated. Jim Lehrer, with big blue eyes so 
>>>>>>>> rounded that I couldn't even see any white in them, need to back off 
>>>>>>>> the coffee or something?  LOL
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It seems like Governor Romney was given all the advantages including; 
>>>>>>>> Obama had to go first to start the debate, Governor Romney went last 
>>>>>>>> to end the debate, and it didn't seem to matter which candidate spoke 
>>>>>>>> first on a topic, Governor Romney always had the last word, which 
>>>>>>>> often ran minutes.  It would be interesting to tally the speaking time 
>>>>>>>> of possession between the two candidates.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> LelandJ
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 10/04/2012 07:20 PM, Michael Madigan wrote:
>>>>>>>>> The debate last night was a replay of Foreman / Frazier.   Wow.
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