There are other follies to be had...
On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 1:03 PM, Jose Mario Quintana < [email protected]> wrote: > On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 8:58 PM, Thomas Costigliola <[email protected] > >wrote: > By the way, is there a convention on this forum for hiding spoilers in > posts? > > > I guess the broad convention is just to give a warning; I like to say > something as: > > > Such a verb v comes in... > > ,. @: |. @: i. 51 > 50 > 49 > 48 > 47 > 46 > 45 > 44 > 43 > 42 > 41 > 40 > 39 > 38 > 37 > 36 > 35 > 34 > 33 > 32 > 31 > 30 > 29 > 28 > 27 > 26 > 25 > 24 > 23 > 22 > 21 > 20 > 19 > 18 > 17 > 16 > 15 > 14 > 13 > 12 > 11 > 10 > 9 > 8 > 7 > 6 > 5 > 4 > 3 > 2 > 1 > 0 > > v=. +"_2 0 > > > > On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 8:58 PM, Thomas Costigliola <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > By the way, is there a convention on this forum for hiding spoilers in > > posts? > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 8:55 PM, Thomas Costigliola <[email protected] > > >wrote: > > > > > Got it now. But I still need some rest to really understand it. > > > > > > Here is more weirdness: > > > > > > 1 2 ]@v 1 2 3 > > > 2 3 > > > 3 4 > > > 4 5 > > > 1 2 v 1 2 3 > > > |length error: v > > > | 1 2 v 1 2 3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Henry Rich <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > >> yes. > > >> > > >> It's not a special-code trick. v is a verb. ] could be anything, and > > >> the same weirdness would result. > > >> > > >> 1 2 v 2 3 > > >> 3 5 > > >> 1 2 (v) 2 3 > > >> 3 5 > > >> 1 2 ]@v 2 3 > > >> 3 4 > > >> 4 5 > > >> 1 2 ]@(v) 2 3 > > >> 3 4 > > >> 4 5 > > >> > > >> > > >> Henry Rich > > >> > > >> > > >> On 6/7/2013 6:43 PM, Dan Bron wrote: > > >> > > >>> My question #2 had two clauses with opposite senses (i.e. it was an > > >>> either/or question), so an unqualified "no" is an ambiguous response. > > Let > > >>> me phrase it as a strict yes/no question: > > >>> > > >>> Does x ]@(v) y necessarily produce the same result as x ]@v y ? > > >>> > > >>> I'm trying to prune out lines of inquiry which would be unsurprising > or > > >>> at least mundane. Since adverbs can see their entire verbal argument, > > >>> phrases like ]@+/ and ]@(+/) are fundamentally different, even if > they > > >>> produce the same results when applied to arguments. In short, if my v > > is > > >>> given access to the ]@ then all sorts of doors are opened (this is > > actually > > >>> how most special code is implemented) and the puzzle is not so > > interesting. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> If, on the other hand, we're taking about a ]@(v) which differs from > > >>> plain (v), that is very interesting; and if the DoJ does in fact > > legitimize > > >>> it (or at least fail to prohibit it), then it is fascinating! > > >>> > > >>> -Dan > > >>> > > >>> Please excuse typos; composed on a handheld device. > > >>> > > >>> On Jun 7, 2013, at 4:39 PM, Henry Rich <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>> > > >>> 1 yes; 2 no; 3 not exactly specified; guess incorrect > > >>>> > > >>>> Henry Rich > > >>>> > > >>>> On 6/7/2013 4:36 PM, Dan Bron wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>>> Three questions: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> #1 Is v necessarily a verb? > > >>>>> #2 Does the effect depend upon v being anonymous, or will it > > work > > >>>>> if v is assigned to a name and/or wrapped in parens? > > >>>>> #3 Is the effect indicated, contraindicated, or unspecified by > > the > > >>>>> Dictionary? > > >>>>> > > >>>>> -Dan > > >>>>> > > >>>>> PS: My initial guess is this is almost certainly a bug introduced > by > > >>>>> some > > >>>>> special-code optimization. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> -----Original Message----- > > >>>>> From: programming-bounces@forums.**jsoftware.com< > > [email protected]> > > >>>>> [mailto:programming-bounces@**forums.jsoftware.com< > > [email protected]>] > > >>>>> On Behalf Of Henry Rich > > >>>>> Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 3:14 PM > > >>>>> To: Programming forum > > >>>>> Subject: [Jprogramming] A puzzle > > >>>>> > > >>>>> For what sort of v does > > >>>>> > > >>>>> ]@v > > >>>>> > > >>>>> give different results than > > >>>>> > > >>>>> v > > >>>>> > > >>>>> ? 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