Thanks Murray for providing the links. I agree Don, but I wonder if the goal of J in 5 minutes is not to teach someone J, but to make them want to learn J.
Not unlike a movie trailer, which has the job of making you want to go see the movie, without giving away the story. Cheers bob On Feb 14, 2014, at 7:02 PM, Don Guinn <dongu...@gmail.com> wrote: > Just viewed the videos by Cliff Hastings for Wolfram. Surprised to see that > there looked like an error in the second video on making a first order fit > showing the line going above the origin when x=0. Later it showed it > correctly. Sent him a note about that. > > But what really bothers me about demos like this is that they look so easy > when they do it, but if I were to try to do it I wouldn't know where to > start. He implied that one could do it without knowing much of anything of > their system. I really get tired of videos like this where they type really > fast and it looks so easy if one just knew their system well, but I usually > don't. If I was presented that screen and wanted to do what he did I > wouldn't have a clue what to do. > > We need to present similar videos on J, but somehow we need to make it > obvious and logical as to what to do. His video was neat, but could I do it > as quickly and easily as he did it without putting in hours, possibly days > learning their system? I doubt it. > > > On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 7:17 PM, Murray Eisenberg > <mur...@math.umass.edu>wrote: > >> If you'd like to see what a good quick demo looks like, done by one guy >> with no fancy production values -- and of a language/system having a >> state-of-the-art user interface, take a look at either of the following: >> >> >> http://www.wolfram.com/broadcast/search.php?Search=app%20minute&x=-879&y=-139&video=728 >> >> http://www.wolfram.com/broadcast/video.php?channel=86&video=869 >> >> On 14 Feb 2014 19:00:45 -0500, Henry Rich <henryhr...@nc.rr.com> wrote: >> >>> As Ian [Clark] observed, a newcomer's first 5 minutes with J will be >> decisive in >>> establishing their attitude towards the language. As things stand, it >>> takes a serious geek to take a shine to J in 5 minutes. Just between us >>> geeks, I wish there were more of us, but that's not the way to bet. >>> >>> No, we need a snappy demo: an application that everyone can relate to, >>> showing how we can code something meaningful and get a pretty display in >>> under 5 minutes. Ideally it should be a YouTube video, with an >>> accompanying Lab so the interested user can reproduce the results. >> >> —— >> Murray Eisenberg mur...@math.umass.edu >> Mathematics & Statistics Dept. >> Lederle Graduate Research Tower phone 240 246-7240 (H) >> University of Massachusetts >> 710 North Pleasant Street >> Amherst, MA 01003-9305 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
