I would put it this way: The diagram could better distinguish between the structure of v and the structure of & (or &:).
Probably a light grey box drawn around the "v part" (and the "u part") would help make this distinction clear. (But, since it's an image, and I don't know how the image was originally created, I don't know how much work that would be.) That said, it's not so much misleading as pointing at a fundamental lack of understanding about how & (and &:) work. Perhaps, there might be another way of doing the diagram, also, that I'm not seeing, that would make this clearer??? Thanks, -- Raul On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 3:14 PM 'Sergey Kamenev' via Programming <[email protected]> wrote: > > Thanks for clarifying. > > 3) In my opinion, phrases on diagram > * split x into cell > * split y into cell > > do not provide anything for understanding conjunctions and could be removed. > > They apply generally to any verb. > > 4) The phrase on the diagram "apply v to each cell" is misleading. > > It would be more correct to say that the verb is applied to the cells > according to its rank. > Or just "the verb applies to cells." > > The words "each cell" is misleading. > > Sergey. > > 28.03.2020 22:02, Henry Rich пишет: > > Even when you apply v to the entire y, you must first split y into cells so > > that it can be applied to v. Every verb operates on cells whose rank is > > no higher than the rank of the verb. > > > > In other words, the splitting is not part of u@:v - it is part of executing > > v itself. > > > > Henry Rich > > > > On 3/28/2020 2:58 PM, 'Sergey Kamenev' via Programming wrote: > >> My comments relate to the third column of the diagram. > >> > >> 1. I don’t understand why it is written on the diagram that Y should be > >> splitted into cells > >> if the verb V should be applied to the whole argument Y. > >> > >> 2. The diagram says the verb V must apply individually to each cell Y, > >> and at the top of the page it says that the verb must apply to the > >> entirety argument Y. > >> > >> 28.03.2020 21:41, Henry Rich пишет: > >>> I don't see what's wrong with the picture. Can you be specific? > >>> > >>> y must always be split into cells, regardless of whether you use & or &: > >>> . The difference comes in whether you collect the results before > >>> applying them to u . > >>> > >>> Henry Rich > >>> > >>> On 3/28/2020 2:36 PM, 'Sergey Kamenev' via Programming wrote: > >>>> Health to all! > >>>> > >>>> Page: > >>>> https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Vocabulary/ampco > >>>> > >>>> Written at the top of the page: > >>>> Applies verb v to each argument in its entirety, and then applies verb u > >>>> to the result(s) of v > >>>> > >>>> The diagram says about &: (bottom to top): > >>>> > >>>> * split y into cell > >>>> * apply v to each cell > >>>> > >>>> Nice day! > >>>> Sergey Kamenev > >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > >>> > >>> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
