Of interest to typesetters -

   http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123992364819927171.html

The memory of that article jumped out of the remarks below...

- joey

At 20:41  +0100 2009/05/30, Ian Clark wrote:
>Watching this with interest, due to my typesetting task of "At Play
>With J" Edn 2. (See JChat).
>
>It's the considered opinion of BAA Vector typesetters (not just me)
>that (in-line) J is a swine to typeset. APL is relatively benign.
>Periods and colons are unmistakable. A-Z and numerals are sufficiently
>different from the narrative fonts in use by Vector (Book Antiqua).
>There's 50 years of experience with in-line APL.
>
>I haven't seen a proposal yet for a J font which overcomes the
>problems. APWJ Edn1 & 2 uses APL385 Unicode for J code as well as APL,
>to recruit some of the subtle benefits of in-line APL. This is based
>on Comic Sans. I myself when editing the definitive Word document have
>an in-line-J style with a yellow background. The colour is removed
>just prior to generating the camera-ready PDF. We're tempted to leave
>the colour in the PDF -- where it will come out mid-grey.
>
>Alas, incoming source material often lacks clear delineation of the
>in-line J code -- or if present it can't be trusted. It's a
>compounding factor that the back-tick used by Moinmoin to delineate
>in-line J is also a valid J character.
>
>Ian Clark
>
>
>2009/5/30 Björn Helgason <[email protected]>:
>>  =.
>>  It could be an idea to show the operations with very large fonts and
>>  separated by blanks in teaching material so the DOTS will stand out well
>>
>>  2009/5/30 Devon McCormick <[email protected]>
>>
>>>  On the other hand, it would be nice to have a display font for J with the
>>>  small "dot" characters (period and colon) more prominently emphasized.
>>>
>>>  On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 12:33 AM, Roger Hui <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>  > I believe that "The Design of J", if it had been written,
>>>  > would have frowned on such font tricks, having learned
>>>  > from the bitter experience with the special characters
>>>  > in APL.
>>>  >
>>>  ...
>>>
>>>
>>>  --
>>>  Devon McCormick, CFA
>>>  ^me^ at acm.
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