I am very surprised by this. Why should in-line J be any harder than in-line APL, since the J alphabet (7-bit ASCII) is a subset of ⎕av ? (At least the Dyalog ⎕av.)
----- Original Message ----- From: Ian Clark <[email protected]> Date: Saturday, May 30, 2009 12:42 Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] Italic Fonts? To: Programming forum <[email protected]> > Watching this with interest, due to my typesetting task of "At Play > With J" Edn 2. (See JChat). > > It's the considered opinion of BAA Vector typesetters (not just me) > that (in-line) J is a swine to typeset. APL is relatively benign. > Periods and colons are unmistakable. A-Z and numerals are sufficiently > different from the narrative fonts in use by Vector (Book Antiqua). > There's 50 years of experience with in-line APL. > > I haven't seen a proposal yet for a J font which overcomes the > problems. APWJ Edn1 & 2 uses APL385 Unicode for J code as well > as APL, > to recruit some of the subtle benefits of in-line APL. This is based > on Comic Sans. I myself when editing the definitive Word > document have > an in-line-J style with a yellow background. The colour is removed > just prior to generating the camera-ready PDF. We're tempted to leave > the colour in the PDF -- where it will come out mid-grey. > > Alas, incoming source material often lacks clear delineation of the > in-line J code -- or if present it can't be trusted. It's a > compounding factor that the back-tick used by Moinmoin to delineate > in-line J is also a valid J character. > > Ian Clark > > > 2009/5/30 Björn Helgason <[email protected]>: > > =. > > It could be an idea to show the operations with very large > fonts and > > separated by blanks in teaching material so the DOTS will > stand out well > > > > 2009/5/30 Devon McCormick <[email protected]> > > > >> On the other hand, it would be nice to have a display font > for J with the > >> small "dot" characters (period and colon) more prominently > emphasized.>> > >> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 12:33 AM, Roger Hui > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> > I believe that "The Design of J", if it had been written, > >> > would have frowned on such font tricks, having learned > >> > from the bitter experience with the special characters > >> > in APL. > >> > > >> ... > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Devon McCormick, CFA > >> ^me^ at acm. > >> org is my > >> preferred e-mail > >> -------------------------------------------------------------- > -------- > >> For information about J forums see > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm>> > > > > > > > > -- > > Björn Helgason, Verkfræðingur > > Fugl&Fiskur ehf, > > Þerneyjarsundi 23, Hraunborgum > > Po Box 127,801 Selfoss , > > t-póst: [email protected] > > gsm: +3546985532 > > Landslags og skrúðgarðagerð, gröfuþjónusta > > http://groups.google.com/group/J-Programming > > > > > > Tæknikunnátta höndlar hið flókna, sköpunargáfa er meistari > einfaldleikans> > > góður kennari getur stigið á tær án þess að glansinn fari af skónum > > > /|_ .------------------------------ > -----. > > ,' .\ > / | Með léttri lund > verður | > > ,--' _,' | > Dagurinn í > dag | > > / > / | Enn betri en > gærdagurinn | > > ( -. > | `-------------------- > ---------------' > > | ) > | (\_ _/) > > (`-. '--.) > (='.'=) ♖♘♗♕♔♙ > > `. )----' > (")_(") ☃☠ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
