In J gtk, the session expects data in utf8 format. Obviously a. won't work, but could be converted to utf8 for display.
The utility that formats data for display is octal_j_. This does a simple check on the argument string and either returns it unchanged, or formats to octal. A simple improvement is to run the formatter on each line, rather than the string as a whole, as below: octal_j_=: 3 : 0 t=. ,y x=. a. i. t n=. x e. 9 10 13 m=. n < 32 > x if. (isutf8 t) > 1 e. m do. t return. end. if. LF e. t do. t=. octal each <;._2 t,LF }: ; t ,each LF return. end. r=. t ,"0 1 [ 3 # EAV if. #m=. I. m +. x>126 do. s=. '\',.}.1 ": 8 (#.^:_1) 255,m{x r=. s m} r end. EAV -.~ ,r ) For example, this works reasonably well with the new definition: load 'unicode' toutf8 &> _16<\a. On my machine, the first two rows (first 32 chars) are still in octal, but the rest get displayed using the proper characters (where available in the font). I would appreciate suggestions for futher improvements to the octal utility. On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 1:14 PM, bill lam <bbill....@gmail.com> wrote: > behaviour of < is different if the string is unicode. u: is required in > some places and it is not related to simplicity or complexity if you > wants correct results. > > compare the outputs of _16{.a. with u: _16{.a. > > the first contains illegal utf8 characters which can be checked by > isutf8 _16{.a. > > What would you expect from gtkide to display those illegal characters? > > Вск, 05 Фев 2012, Fraser Jackson писал(а): > > Why should I have to use u: to box elements of a. ? Seems an > unnecessary > > complication - and a bigger problem for beginners. > > > > In gtkide <"0 [2}. u: i. 16 16 still has all the problems. That > suggests > > some problems are associated with the unicode treatment of control > > characters. > > > > Even in Jconsole the first and second line are also irregular.When the > > configure specifies a mono spaced font in gtkide we should surely expect > > characters within the ascii set will be treated as atoms and assigned a > > single space. > > > > I am really seeking that members of the alphabet ( and hence any literal > > nouns defined using that set ) have each member treated as an atom and > that > > that treatment is clearly separated from their role in controlling the > > nature of the display. That seems to have been achieved in J602. > > > > The treatment of type 131072 - unicode obviously involves a host of other > > issues with respect to display and treatment of aoms. However there are > a > > large number of problems within the narrower framework of atoms within > a. or > > represented by those characters. Precise, simple and consistent display > of > > those atoms is extremely valuable and important and has not yet been > > achieved with the gtkide. > > > > Fraser > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "bill lam" <bbill....@gmail.com> > > To: <programming@jsoftware.com> > > Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 3:04 PM > > Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] Problems displaying the alphabet in J701gtk > and > > J701jhs > > > > > > > It seemes that the characters in the first two rows caused the trouble, > > > the following display ok in gtkide, > > > > > > <"0 [ u: 2}. i.16 16 > > > > > > jconsole have no problem in displaying them. > > > > > > <"0[u: i.16 16 > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > -- > regards, > ==================================================== > GPG key 1024D/4434BAB3 2008-08-24 > gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 4434BAB3 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm