* Present:
+ Andras, Norbert, Eike, Caolan, Joel, David, Michael M,
Stephan, Kendy, Petr, Norbert, Michael S, Thorsten,
Cedric, Pierre-Eric, Ahmad
* Completed Action Items
+ add a11y issue to 3.6.x release notes (Thorsten)
+ audit set of new / built-in fonts (Caolan)
+ they're fine.
+ create script / suggestions to parse Meeks minutes (Bjoern)
+ punted.
+ fdo#51023 - impress D&D crasher - (thanks Tor !)
+ post proposed set of rules for 4.x ABI handling to
list for discussion (Kendy)
+ update wiki page wrt. 4.0 versioning details (Petr)
+ set updater to get 3.5.0..2 -> 3.6.3 (Kendy)
+ done.
+ T-shirt feedback sent to Mirek (Kendy)
* Pending Action Items
+ create a new AmbitiousHacks wiki page, based on GSOC page (Michael M)
+ poke UX advise wrt. how to improve color management UI team (Markus)
+ issues to look into if we can
+ fdo#55360 - mac specific text issue (Thorsten)
+ minimal triage for good mentors for proposed easy hacks (Bjoern)
+ update master / build versioning (Petr)
+ setup call for designs for FOSDEM T-shirts (Astron)
+ font bundling and gerrit fun with Astron (Andras)
+ waiting for Astron's feedback
+ provide a new palette based on Tango (Alex?)
* Release Engineering update (Petr)
+ on-line update / full switch-over go/no-go ?
+ there are and always will be regressions (Petr)
+ instead propose update people on versions
in range: 3.5.0-3.5.x and 3.6.0 to 3.6.x-1 to 3.6.x
+ that means updating up to 3.5.3 to 3.6.3 (as of now)
AA: keep this scheme up unless foiled by a security issue
+ 3.6.4 rc1 branch deadline is Nov 12th
+ branch on Tuesday.
+ 3.7 timeline: Dec 3rd - week 47
+ feature-freeze 3 weeks out.
* Hack-fest coming up:
+ http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/Munich2012
+ if you're coming - please sign up: 20x guys so far.
+ do people need travel subsidy to be there ?
+ anyone interested please contact me.
* UX input (Astron)
+ should we just default disable the rulers ? (cf. gerrit patch)
+ concrete decision appreciated.
* Warning-free build issues (Lionel)
+ new-contributor interest in reducing build time warnings
+ most of the warnings are in included code not ours.
+ punted until Lionel can be here
* FOSDEM dev-room:
+ http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Events/Fosdem2013
+ travel subsidy available
+ talks much appreciated, sign up early.
* Certification Committee update (Kendy/Stephan/Bjoern)
+ list is published
+ [ list seen in blog ] ...
AA: + grok the list of contributors for suitable candidates (Kendy)
AA: + work on mail to encourage them to apply (Kendy/Stephan/Bjoern)
* formal ESC composition:
+ http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/ESC
+ add Joel
AA: + add Mirek (?) ask Astron / Mirek / Alexander (Kendy)
+ add Tibby in Mitch's place.
+ add Ahamd for MOTAH
AA: + poke the board with new names (Michael)
* submodules retrospective (Norbert)
+ lots of people with exciting problems migrating
+ seems to be working nicely now.
+ issues with failed checkout of concern (Michael)
* Proposed easy-hacks -> Easy Hacks (Joel)
+ re-visit finding devs to build code-pointers for these:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?list_id=147895&status_whiteboard_type=anywordssubstr&query_format=advanced&status_whiteboard=ProposedEasyHack&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=REOPENED&product=LibreOffice
* 4.0 pending tasks
+ binfilter - what to do about it (Norbert)
+ remove it completely (Michael S)
+ do we have a concrete criteria for this stuff (Caolan)
+ remote Lotus Word Pro for consistency ?
+ binfilter particularly bad: duplicated code.
+ happy to remove it.
+ bundling libre logo ? (Andras)
+ cf. motivational mail to dev list
+ around 200k with icons license etc.
+ is it useful for office suite users (Stephan)
+ useful for school children & fun in draw
+ not eager for bundled extensions
+ built it into the core (Stephan)
+ should we drop Rhino, Beanshell & javascript in 4.0 ? (Michael)
+ could be turned into an extension
+ was in the past was turned off (Stephan)
AA: + disable Rhino / Beanshell unless in experimental mode
(Michael)
+ for future deprecation / removal.
+ upgrade bundled python to 3.0
+ user migration path thought / testing
AA: + bump versions sooner than later, to find hard-coded '3's (Petr)
* LibreOffice conference bits
+ please send links to your photos to
confere...@global.libreoffice.org
* cool feature contributions from latest Ubuntu (Bjoern)
+ shipping in latest Ubuntu
+ PackageKit - just one patch, whack it in - an UNO component that
checks if pkgs are installed / install them etc.
+ some distro-specific package name wrapping needed
+ push buttons for additional templates
+ lots of expansion potential: filters, lang-packs etc.
+ Unity Menus
+ re-base the branch vs. master
AA: + review the branch as/when it's re-based (Michael)
* UDS Update (Bjoern)
- three LibreOffice sessions, some highlights:
- we will do three daily LibreOffice builds in Canonical QA Labs:
- master without system libs
- can we tinbuild that for integration in upstream infra ?
- release with system libs
- best without tinbuild integration: breakages are more likely
Ubuntus faults
- possibly: QEMU ARM build in QA mode.
- greenlighted investigating cleaning up scp2, my goals would be:
- make it driven by deps only, so that you can do "make
/usr/lib/ure/lib/lib_unosal.so.3" without doing a full re-build.
+ v. useful for quick hackery
- kill solver -- copy directly from $WORKDIR
- various packaging titbits
- http://errors.ubuntu.com/ is truely awesome
+ enter libreoffice-core and 'last month'
+ for Fedora (Caolan)
+
https://retrace.fedoraproject.org/faf/problems/hot/*/*/libreoffice/
- Ubuntu will introduce staged updates, maybe an idea for the
Windows updater discussion?
+ staged -> goes to a few people first, then a wider group.
- quickly showed off bibisect, might be an idea for upstream GNOME too.
* QA update (Joel / Bjoern)
+ business as usual
+ trying to get back into routine - wrt. time-change
* Hard Hacks:
+ http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/HardHacks
+ page updated
+ developers like the selection of hard hacks
+ fdo#49610 - EDITING: Terminating 'Find' when reached (Michael)
+ fdo#40594 - FILEOPEN .docx (MSO2010) does not show CHART object
+ volunteer needed
+ fdo#52433 - MEMORY LEAK: particular .odt leading to crash after ...
+ well known image management is utterly shambolic disaster
area.
* Closed 3.7 MAB (with thanks)
+ fdo#56460 - CRASH closing specific .odg files ? (Caolan)
* Open 3.7 MAB / regressions [ there should be none ]:
+ 4 (of 18) older 3/16 3/14 2/13
+ fdo#53525 - 2 columns Table of contents exceeds page width ?
+ fdo#55563 - PPTX image background rendered incorrectly
+ fdo#55570 - significant autocorrect slow-down (Stephan)
+
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=54157&hide_resolved=1
* 3.6 most annoying bugs ...
+ 34 (of 148) older 35/145 33/139 30/132 27/127 44/139 46/137 45/132
44/127
23% 24% 24% 23% 21% 32% 34% 34%
35%
+
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=44446&hide_resolved=1
* 3.5 most annoying bugs ...
+ 69 open (of 278) older 69/279 75/278 77/279 78/278 81/279 82/279
83/279 80/270
25% 25% 27% 28% 28% 29% 29%
30% 30%
+
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=37361&hide_resolved=1
* 3.5 bugs tagged with 'regression'
+ 178(+1) bugs open of 891(+9) total
* ~Component count net *
+ Writer - 74 (+0)
+ Crashes - 17 (+1)
+ Presentation - 17 (-1)
+ Database - 16 (+1)
+ Spreadsheet - 15 (+2)
+ LibreOffice - 12 (+0)
+ Drawing - 13 (+1)
+ Borders - 9 (-2)
+ Migration - 5 (+0)
+ Basic - 3 (+0)
+ Writer / RTF - 1 (-2)
+
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&product=LibreOffice&list_id=36764
+ Migration tracker: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43489
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