* Present: + Fridrich, Stephan, Andras, Joel, Caolan, Markus, Norbert, Bjoern, Thorsten, Ahmad, Astron, Michael M, Eike, Michael S, Petr, Cedric.
* Completed Action Items + need to rename the MIGRATED flag and unwind / test re-migration (Michael) + apparently no need to do this - the new directory name takes care of it. + FOSDEM: how to debug spreadsheet file-format issues (Markus) + FOSDEM: how to debug writer file-format issues (Miklos) + FOSDEM: add: language-tags how they clean up our l10n story (Eike) + FOSDEM: types.rdb removal / re-writing (Stephan) + FOSDEM: hacking on the new android / impress-remote (Thorsten) + FOSDEM: hacking on CMIS / the new template dialog (Cedric) + Testing Marathon: get update with stats for wordpress to Michael (Joel) + http://joelmadero.wordpress.com/2012/12/27/libreoffice-test-marathon-results/ + disable gnome-vfs for now on linux builds for RC1 (Fridrich) + remove overly lame .gitignore entries (Norbert) + hide TCP/IP mode in android app itself: bluetooth only by default (Miklos) + update existing 'find-bar' close button / bug to an easy-hack 58526 (Michael) + obsolete - Joren on it. * Last-time Action Items + Windows: .Net vs. our install still chasing (Tor / Fridrich) + FOSDEM: Easy QA introduction: bug triage etc. (Cor?) + FOSDEM: misc. new interop. feature and their development (Tibby) + on-line help for impress-remote would be useful, help appreciated (?) + full-word selection / editing ergonomics cf. UX-advise + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46517 + pending input from Caolan / Cedric / Michael S + investigate re-using Win32 binary signing for Mac (Thorsten) * Pending Action Items + [pending] add impress remote shots to features wiki page (Thorsten) + create a new AmbitiousHacks wiki page, based on GSOC page (Michael M) + minimal triage for good mentors for proposed easy hacks (Bjoern) + disable Rhino / Beanshell unless in experimental mode (Michael) + tweak the configure defaults (Kendy) + no submodules by default, no gnome-vfs + mail details on signing etc. to Caolan (Fridrich) + needs a GPG public key from Caolan, punted to Jan. * Release Engineering update (Petr) + 4.0 timeline: + on-schedule, RC1 builds are available, up-loading + All fixes now need 1x review - don't push your own work + RC2 January 25th - 2 weeks out + final RC3 - one week later + hard UI / string freeze + l10n approval required for string changes. + no string changes in final RC3 + 3.6.5 rc1 - deadline is Monday + if critical regression wait until after 4.0rc3 for it + L10n status (Andras) + pootle upgrade 2x weeks ago and 4.0 brought lots of changes + lots of ongoing work, status looks good + completing generic / Linux builds -> RedHat (Caolan) + fdo#58165 - drop stdlibs foo * UX input (Astron) + template manager / progress + progressing nicely - thanks to Cedric + Personas + discussion on ux-advise + thanks for feedback ! (Kendy) + Initial color picker design [done] + would appreciate hackers / hands [!] + great design at: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/Color_Picker + Splash screens + new whiteboard for 4.0 branding suggestions https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/4.0_Branding + so far may well stick with existing branding + T-shirts (Kendy) + whiteboard / feedback / CC the design list for FOSDEM + Save icon - are we going to switch back for 4.0 to the floppy ? + http://user-prompt.com/about-antiquated-metaphors-in-icons/ AI: + decision on whether to switch back tol old floppy save (Astron) + blog post pasting websites & loosing images ? (Bjoern) AI: + agreement that default to not link should be fixed (Bjoern) * Certification Committee update (Kendy/Stephan/Bjoern) + nice write-up, great progress * FOSDEM update (Markus) + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Events/Fosdem2013 + preliminary timetable being tweaked + to be published later and Italo will enter to Penta + 20mins slots for 15min talks, and 40mins for 30min talks * Features - please update: + http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/4.0 + other missing ? + templates management (Cedric) + add Personas (Kendy) + Mac / full-screen bits (Tor) + automated document load regession catching (Markus) + plan to add it to tinderbox, problems with some docs - 1 day to load + offered a tinderbox to Markus (Norbert) + file individual issues in batches - for three smallest documents (Caolan) * gerrit / build-bot integration (Norbert) + starting to come on-line + now capable of building a patch with gerrit + eventually have an extra option - beyond verified + "sane - but needs a build before auto-merging" + so a developer reviews patch first + additional SDK examples (Stephan) + http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2013-January/043603.html + problems with adding to the sdk + grows the core repo + git greps / easy-hacks tweak the samples + sdk is not built & bit-rots + review cost - producing beautiful / best-practise code etc. + long ter need to make SD + Need a place for code snippets ? + or a forum ? (Norbert) AI: + contrib/ repository (Norbert) + presenter-console patches to back-port to 4.0 ? (Ahmad) + working nicely in 4.0 + 2-3 patches fixing text mirroring from master AI: + look at this next week in person (Michael) + Widget layout localisation performance (DTardon) + fixed nicely, much faster, thanks David. + build-times with 110 langs back to 1 day - ie. normal + funding requests for the board: + 2x fast Mac build machines - tinderboxen - and ... dev machines + TDF should also own the hardware for releasing (Thorsten) + have Bytemark windows machine could use (Norbert) + machine able to build - signing certificate issues (Fridrich) + Funding request for new, fast Windows build machines (Norbert) AI: + come up with / improve the existing concrete funding request for build hardware => board budget (Norbert/Thorsten/Fridrich) * DudenCorrector bug fdo#59107 (Fridrich) + library deprecated since Feb 2011 - and announced + could we produce a compatibility package to drop the obsolete stlport into the system ? + not holding breath for progress before 4.0 + a reasonable workaround is the best option + unanimous decision not to re-introduce obsolete VS run-time and stlport binaries. AI: + at a minimum - release-note: dropping the DLL and the VS run-time on the system (Fridrich) * 4.0 completed tasks: + MSI file re-name to be renamed for 4.0 LibreOffice (Petr) + pain / fixing for PHP / download scripts (Thorsten) + user migration path thought / testing (Michael) + .net framework, multiple installation bugs in Windows + a work-around: bump the required version of .Net ... + now we require .Net 4 + if not there, the CLI not installed. AI: + close https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58275 (Timar) * 4.0 pending tasks + binfilter: + warn on legacy file-types with helpful dialog (needs owner) + drop Mozilla mess in the tree: + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56902 + lots of cleanup in configure + Unix / LDAP addressbook support disappeared: + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57417 + close that wontfix & release-note it ? + Mac build / signing (Thorsten/Norbert?) * Proposed easy-hacks -> Easy Hacks (Joel) + developers need to decide what to do next + punting for a month ? + re-visit finding devs to build code-pointers for these: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?list_id=147895&status_whiteboard_type=anywordssubstr&query_format=advanced&status_whiteboard=ProposedEasyHack&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=REOPENED&product=LibreOffice * Hard Hacks: + http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/HardHacks + mostly suspended until post 4.0 release. * QA update (Joel) + all well + lots of QA Marathon joinees are continuing to help out + Joren doing awesome work + first meeting of new year tomorrow + still have around 64 4.0 bugs that need triage + aiming to get the un-triaged 4.0 bug count down to zero by next week + doing a lot of great bi-bisecting + handling of inappropriate behaviout on bz (Bjoern) + punted to next time * Open 4.0 MAB / regressions + 14 (of 64) older 13/48 13/41 9/34 10/34 11/31 6/21 4/18 3/16 3/14 2/13 22% 27% 32% 26% 29% 35% 29% 22% + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=54157&hide_resolved=1 * 3.6 most annoying bugs ... + 36 (of 166) older 37/164 34/160 35/158 32/153 31/152 33/150 34/148 35/145 22% 23% 21% 22% 21% 20% 22% 23% 24% + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=44446&hide_resolved=1 * 3.5 most annoying bugs ... + 49 (of 266) older 50/266 54/268 62/277 64/279 65/279 65/278 69/278 69/279 18% 19% 20% 22% 23% 23% 23% 25% 25% + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=37361&hide_resolved=1 * Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibsected' + attempt at a new metric: + 43 (of 110) + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?f1=status_whiteboard&list_id=204265&o1=substring&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&v1=bibisected&product=LibreOffice + thanks to mst for closing several 'bibisected40' bugs & to QA for more bisection. * all bugs tagged with 'regression' + 245(+15) bugs open of 1109(+79) total * ~Component count net * + Writer - 95 (+8) + Crashes - 25 (+4) + Presentation - 24 (+0) + Spreadsheet - 22 (+1) + Database - 18 (+2) + LibreOffice - 17 (+0) + Drawing - 15 (+0) + Borders - 11 (+1) + Migration - 5 (+0) + Basic - 3 (-1) + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&product=LibreOffice&list_id=36764 + Migration tracker: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43489 + Writer / RTF section - retired: will now be counted as writer regressions + http://vmiklos.hu/blog/lo-zero-rtf-regressions.html -- michael.me...@suse.com <><, Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to projects+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted