* Present:
+ Fridrich, Stephan, Andras, Joel, Caolan, Markus, Norbert,
Bjoern, Thorsten, Ahmad, Astron, Michael M, Eike, Michael S,
Petr, Cedric.
* Completed Action Items
+ need to rename the MIGRATED flag and unwind / test re-migration
(Michael)
+ apparently no need to do this - the new directory name
takes care of it.
+ FOSDEM: how to debug spreadsheet file-format issues (Markus)
+ FOSDEM: how to debug writer file-format issues (Miklos)
+ FOSDEM: add: language-tags how they clean up our l10n story (Eike)
+ FOSDEM: types.rdb removal / re-writing (Stephan)
+ FOSDEM: hacking on the new android / impress-remote (Thorsten)
+ FOSDEM: hacking on CMIS / the new template dialog (Cedric)
+ Testing Marathon: get update with stats for wordpress to Michael
(Joel)
+
http://joelmadero.wordpress.com/2012/12/27/libreoffice-test-marathon-results/
+ disable gnome-vfs for now on linux builds for RC1 (Fridrich)
+ remove overly lame .gitignore entries (Norbert)
+ hide TCP/IP mode in android app itself: bluetooth only by default
(Miklos)
+ update existing 'find-bar' close button / bug to an easy-hack 58526
(Michael)
+ obsolete - Joren on it.
* Last-time Action Items
+ Windows: .Net vs. our install still chasing (Tor / Fridrich)
+ FOSDEM: Easy QA introduction: bug triage etc. (Cor?)
+ FOSDEM: misc. new interop. feature and their development (Tibby)
+ on-line help for impress-remote would be useful, help appreciated (?)
+ full-word selection / editing ergonomics cf. UX-advise
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46517
+ pending input from Caolan / Cedric / Michael S
+ investigate re-using Win32 binary signing for Mac (Thorsten)
* Pending Action Items
+ [pending] add impress remote shots to features wiki page (Thorsten)
+ create a new AmbitiousHacks wiki page, based on GSOC page (Michael M)
+ minimal triage for good mentors for proposed easy hacks (Bjoern)
+ disable Rhino / Beanshell unless in experimental mode (Michael)
+ tweak the configure defaults (Kendy)
+ no submodules by default, no gnome-vfs
+ mail details on signing etc. to Caolan (Fridrich)
+ needs a GPG public key from Caolan, punted to Jan.
* Release Engineering update (Petr)
+ 4.0 timeline:
+ on-schedule, RC1 builds are available, up-loading
+ All fixes now need 1x review - don't push your own work
+ RC2 January 25th - 2 weeks out
+ final RC3 - one week later
+ hard UI / string freeze
+ l10n approval required for string changes.
+ no string changes in final RC3
+ 3.6.5 rc1 - deadline is Monday
+ if critical regression wait until after 4.0rc3 for it
+ L10n status (Andras)
+ pootle upgrade 2x weeks ago and 4.0 brought lots of changes
+ lots of ongoing work, status looks good
+ completing generic / Linux builds -> RedHat (Caolan)
+ fdo#58165 - drop stdlibs foo
* UX input (Astron)
+ template manager / progress
+ progressing nicely - thanks to Cedric
+ Personas
+ discussion on ux-advise
+ thanks for feedback ! (Kendy)
+ Initial color picker design [done]
+ would appreciate hackers / hands [!]
+ great design at:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/Color_Picker
+ Splash screens
+ new whiteboard for 4.0 branding suggestions
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/4.0_Branding
+ so far may well stick with existing branding
+ T-shirts (Kendy)
+ whiteboard / feedback / CC the design list for FOSDEM
+ Save icon - are we going to switch back for 4.0 to the floppy ?
+ http://user-prompt.com/about-antiquated-metaphors-in-icons/
AI: + decision on whether to switch back tol old floppy save
(Astron)
+ blog post pasting websites & loosing images ? (Bjoern)
AI: + agreement that default to not link should be fixed (Bjoern)
* Certification Committee update (Kendy/Stephan/Bjoern)
+ nice write-up, great progress
* FOSDEM update (Markus)
+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Events/Fosdem2013
+ preliminary timetable being tweaked
+ to be published later and Italo will enter to Penta
+ 20mins slots for 15min talks, and 40mins for 30min talks
* Features - please update:
+ http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/4.0
+ other missing ?
+ templates management (Cedric)
+ add Personas (Kendy)
+ Mac / full-screen bits (Tor)
+ automated document load regession catching (Markus)
+ plan to add it to tinderbox, problems with some docs - 1 day to load
+ offered a tinderbox to Markus (Norbert)
+ file individual issues in batches - for three smallest documents
(Caolan)
* gerrit / build-bot integration (Norbert)
+ starting to come on-line
+ now capable of building a patch with gerrit
+ eventually have an extra option - beyond verified
+ "sane - but needs a build before auto-merging"
+ so a developer reviews patch first
+ additional SDK examples (Stephan)
+
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2013-January/043603.html
+ problems with adding to the sdk
+ grows the core repo
+ git greps / easy-hacks tweak the samples
+ sdk is not built & bit-rots
+ review cost - producing beautiful / best-practise
code etc.
+ long ter need to make SD
+ Need a place for code snippets ?
+ or a forum ? (Norbert)
AI: + contrib/ repository (Norbert)
+ presenter-console patches to back-port to 4.0 ? (Ahmad)
+ working nicely in 4.0
+ 2-3 patches fixing text mirroring from master
AI: + look at this next week in person (Michael)
+ Widget layout localisation performance (DTardon)
+ fixed nicely, much faster, thanks David.
+ build-times with 110 langs back to 1 day - ie. normal
+ funding requests for the board:
+ 2x fast Mac build machines - tinderboxen - and ... dev machines
+ TDF should also own the hardware for releasing (Thorsten)
+ have Bytemark windows machine could use (Norbert)
+ machine able to build - signing certificate issues (Fridrich)
+ Funding request for new, fast Windows build machines (Norbert)
AI: + come up with / improve the existing concrete funding request
for build hardware => board budget (Norbert/Thorsten/Fridrich)
* DudenCorrector bug fdo#59107 (Fridrich)
+ library deprecated since Feb 2011 - and announced
+ could we produce a compatibility package to drop the
obsolete stlport into the system ?
+ not holding breath for progress before 4.0
+ a reasonable workaround is the best option
+ unanimous decision not to re-introduce obsolete
VS run-time and stlport binaries.
AI: + at a minimum - release-note: dropping the DLL and the
VS run-time on the system (Fridrich)
* 4.0 completed tasks:
+ MSI file re-name to be renamed for 4.0 LibreOffice (Petr)
+ pain / fixing for PHP / download scripts (Thorsten)
+ user migration path thought / testing (Michael)
+ .net framework, multiple installation bugs in Windows
+ a work-around: bump the required version of .Net ...
+ now we require .Net 4
+ if not there, the CLI not installed.
AI: + close https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58275
(Timar)
* 4.0 pending tasks
+ binfilter:
+ warn on legacy file-types with helpful dialog (needs owner)
+ drop Mozilla mess in the tree:
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56902
+ lots of cleanup in configure
+ Unix / LDAP addressbook support disappeared:
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57417
+ close that wontfix & release-note it ?
+ Mac build / signing (Thorsten/Norbert?)
* Proposed easy-hacks -> Easy Hacks (Joel)
+ developers need to decide what to do next
+ punting for a month ?
+ re-visit finding devs to build code-pointers for these:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?list_id=147895&status_whiteboard_type=anywordssubstr&query_format=advanced&status_whiteboard=ProposedEasyHack&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=REOPENED&product=LibreOffice
* Hard Hacks:
+ http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/HardHacks
+ mostly suspended until post 4.0 release.
* QA update (Joel)
+ all well
+ lots of QA Marathon joinees are continuing to help out
+ Joren doing awesome work
+ first meeting of new year tomorrow
+ still have around 64 4.0 bugs that need triage
+ aiming to get the un-triaged 4.0 bug count down to zero by next week
+ doing a lot of great bi-bisecting
+ handling of inappropriate behaviout on bz (Bjoern)
+ punted to next time
* Open 4.0 MAB / regressions
+ 14 (of 64) older 13/48 13/41 9/34 10/34 11/31 6/21 4/18 3/16 3/14 2/13
22% 27% 32% 26% 29% 35% 29% 22%
+
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=54157&hide_resolved=1
* 3.6 most annoying bugs ...
+ 36 (of 166) older 37/164 34/160 35/158 32/153 31/152 33/150 34/148
35/145
22% 23% 21% 22% 21% 20% 22% 23%
24%
+
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=44446&hide_resolved=1
* 3.5 most annoying bugs ...
+ 49 (of 266) older 50/266 54/268 62/277 64/279 65/279 65/278 69/278
69/279
18% 19% 20% 22% 23% 23% 23% 25%
25%
+
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=37361&hide_resolved=1
* Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibsected'
+ attempt at a new metric:
+ 43 (of 110)
+
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?f1=status_whiteboard&list_id=204265&o1=substring&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&v1=bibisected&product=LibreOffice
+ thanks to mst for closing several 'bibisected40' bugs & to QA for
more bisection.
* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
+ 245(+15) bugs open of 1109(+79) total
* ~Component count net *
+ Writer - 95 (+8)
+ Crashes - 25 (+4)
+ Presentation - 24 (+0)
+ Spreadsheet - 22 (+1)
+ Database - 18 (+2)
+ LibreOffice - 17 (+0)
+ Drawing - 15 (+0)
+ Borders - 11 (+1)
+ Migration - 5 (+0)
+ Basic - 3 (-1)
+
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&product=LibreOffice&list_id=36764
+ Migration tracker: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43489
+ Writer / RTF section - retired: will now be counted as writer
regressions
+ http://vmiklos.hu/blog/lo-zero-rtf-regressions.html
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